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Tim Gray

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« on: November 29, 2007, 01:21:24 pm »

I know the new Exhibition Fibre is designed for the K3 inks.  Should I just not bother even trying with a 4000?  Would a custom profile do the trick?
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 07:27:31 pm »

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I know the new Exhibition Fibre is designed for the K3 inks.  Should I just not bother even trying with a 4000?  Would a custom profile do the trick?
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As far as I know, the original UltraChrome inks should print on the paper ok...the caveat is that the K3 inks WERE reformulated to reduce gloss differential and the paper is designed to match as close as possible the gloss of the K3 inks. So your milage may vary. But you will need to do your own custom profiles. PixelGenius only did profiles for "current" printers down to the 2400 (not the 1800) and didn't want to get into the old printers for profiling.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 07:55:36 pm »

Thanks, I'll give a custom profile a try...
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 08:04:32 pm »

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Thanks, I'll give a custom profile a try...
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Is the new Exhibition Fibre availible? I thought it was not out yet.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 07:48:43 am »

I think it's been delayed until sometime in December.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 07:57:07 am »

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Is the new Exhibition Fibre availible? I thought it was not out yet.
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The paper _IS_ shipping (via truck freight cause paper is really heavy) from Epson warehouses as of the end of last week. But it still has to get into retail distribution...depending on the vender's location, that could be a few days of transit plus stocking and what not at the retail end. People should start seeing stuff show up next week (week of Dec 3rd).
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 09:45:03 am »

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Well sure, a custom profile would do the trick. I have no idea how the profiles made for the 4800 would work here, worth a try.

I'd also love feedback on the paper and profiles being used in the printers the profiles were designed for. Output quality, soft proof etc.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 09:52:53 am »

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Well sure, a custom profile would do the trick. I have no idea how the profiles made for the 4800 would work here, worth a try.
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Andrew, I'm pretty darn sure that a 4800 profile would be VERY suboptimal on a 4000...
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 09:59:49 am »

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Andrew, I'm pretty darn sure that a 4800 profile would be VERY suboptimal on a 4000...
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Having no experience with that printer, I'll take your word for it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2007, 11:30:25 am »

Andrew, I have a stock of this paper(epson exhibi. fiber) on order and will be printing on an epson 9880.  One question, I've downloaded the profiles from the Pixel genius site for this paper and noticed they are all in 2880.  That's good for my small and medium prints, but when I'm printing really large I prefer to go to 1440.  When testing these profiles on prem. luster (for lack of epson exhibition paper right now) the 2880 looked really very good, but when I tried printing at 1440 the prints looked washed out.  Am I doing something wrong, or are these profiles strictly usable at 2880?  Thanks, Eleanor

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Well sure, a custom profile would do the trick. I have no idea how the profiles made for the 4800 would work here, worth a try.

I'd also love feedback on the paper and profiles being used in the printers the profiles were designed for. Output quality, soft proof etc.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2007, 12:50:57 pm »

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One question, I've downloaded the profiles from the Pixel genius site for this paper and noticed they are all in 2880.  That's good for my small and medium prints, but when I'm printing really large I prefer to go to 1440. 
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They should work just fine at that resolution.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2007, 09:19:08 pm »

I used the Atkinson profile for Premium Glossy on my 7600 and it printed pretty well. Looks great, as good as any of the other papers I have a custom profile for. It is my favorite out of the ones I have tried. Harman glossy FB AI would be second, then Crane Silver or Hahn Pearl.

I chose the Premium Glossy profile because that wsa the suggested media.  I didn't have a Premium Semi-gloss profile. You could probably use that, or Premium Luster if you have that one.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2007, 10:51:25 pm »

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Andrew,

I finally got around to opening my sample pack (the ones Epson was handing out at PPE last month), downloaded the PK profile for the 3800, installed it and used it as advertised. The 3800 needs no adjustments to anything. I simply loaded it into the auto-feed one sheet at a time as Epson recommends. It pulls the paper through just fine. I made four prints: (1) the Atkinson Printer Target Test page, (2) an image with skin tones and red clothing, (3) a very cool image with many shades of dark blues, deep greens and a range of orange tones (pre-dawn in Granada Spain), and (4) a couple of variants of a B&W image with VERY challenging deep shadow detail.

I was really impressed with the results. The profile soft-proofs well, and the overall image quality is faithful and impressive. Skin tones are correct, red is vibrant, the tonal renditions in the cool image were exactly what I hoped for, and the B&W displayed rich black, great tonal gradation and satisfactory deep shadow detail.

I brought this small package of images to a workshop I was attending at Michael's gallery yesterday and all who looked at them thought they were very good, so it's not just me - there's corroboration from a group of savvy pro-sumers.

My only frustration at this point is SUPPLY. I'd love to re-test those images on A3 or 11*17. Yes, I hear it's in those big trucks, but they haven't pulled-up into Toronto yet!

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 05:24:37 am »

Quote from: eleanorbrown,Dec 2 2007, 04:30 PM
Andrew, I have a stock of this paper(epson exhibi. fiber) on order and will be printing on an epson 9880.  One question, I've downloaded the profiles from the Pixel genius site for this paper and noticed they are all in 2880.  That's good for my small and medium prints, but when I'm printing really large I prefer to go to 1440.  When testing these profiles on prem. luster (for lack of epson exhibition paper right now) the 2880 looked really very good, but when I tried printing at 1440 the prints looked washed out.  Am I doing something wrong, or are these profiles strictly usable at 2880?  Thanks, Eleanor

Hi Eleanor,
On the 9800 I have, 2880 lays down more ink than at 1440. Assuming a similar situation with the 9880, this would explain the weak image at 1440 using a 2880 profile.
I have separate custom profiles for each resolution setting for each paper.
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Brian
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 08:57:41 am »

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I was really impressed with the results. The profile soft-proofs well, and the overall image quality is faithful and impressive. Skin tones are correct, red is vibrant, the tonal renditions in the cool image were exactly what I hoped for, and the B&W displayed rich black, great tonal gradation and satisfactory deep shadow detail.

Great news! I hope to get a supply soon to test on a new 7880.
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