I don't see any clash, rather the need to get clarifications about the "Rolleimetric" camera and how people can get it, if interested. We do not need statements like "Have you seen, I was right"!
From this point of view, I don't see your need to start a clash and arguments. And I guess you don't "need to offer some "proof"", like you say it: members have enough judgement to sort it out by themselves.
I am sincerely also and slowly fed up with your allusions about my position and not being a "real" photographer: I have nothing to prove and I have probably made my living from photography (by shooting in my studio) a long time before you even started. In this respect, and since you wish to list always the links to statements that I did, I suggest you to link to the very first one, which explains in detail who I am, where I come from and what is my "real" background. That would be much more interesting. All we know is that photography is your profession for over 15 years. I have been myself starting in 1980: therefore a bit longer than yourself, nearly twice as long, isn't it?http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....topic=13504&hl=
Nobody has ever put in question the availability of Phase backs on the Rolleiflex 6008: you suggest the contrary. Misleading, at the very least!
It has been informed by others and it is also well known that the Rolleiflex was available as a bundle with the P20.
What will effectively happen with Rollei-Metric, Phase One and the Rolleiflex Hy6 model, that's another story which I do not wish to elaborate on.
Now you claim that you cannot make a declaration in public, when on the other hand you don't miss any single opportunity to jump in whenever you wish to "rectify" posts made by others or to write that you were right: rather a strange behavior. I did not ask you to make an official statement in the name of a company, but to share your deep insider knowledge (your own words) the way you claim to have it. Certainly statements like "I know it and I have insider information" does not bring anybody any further, even more when those claims are made under the cover of anonymity. You cannot on one hand make loud claims about sensitive and important issues, and then complain that people wish to know a bit more about it.
I did not question your quality of the information, with exception to the Sinar Hy6 and who has developed this product, and I still do, whatever your claims and suggestions are again here.
What I questioned and am still doing, is the way you are intervening, nothing more. And if you are honest, you will remember that I had written you the very same in my PM to you, in answering yours. And I did explain to you as well, that I did not wish you doing claims involving the Sinar name and brand, which you did a few times. This simply to avoid confusions and because it is not your prerogative at all to do so.
Now, if you want the reason WHY I did not mention the existence of the 45° finder, I'll give it to you: Sinar has not (yet) decided to have this item in the list of accessories for the Sinar Hy6. We are currently looking at it, and I shall inform in due time, like I always did. Period. It would have been wrong to announce such when not available. Therefore, I kindly but firmly ask you to not trying to suggest my non-knowledge of what I am speaking about.
Thank you for "the poor job" I am doing here. I don't need any flowers. I am simply doing my part of the work, with my knowledge and with the knowledge of some of my colleagues, with the very strong wish to provide an information as accurate and true as possible. We are all doing our job at the best of our abilities, be sure of that. It has been rather appreciated on this forum so far, despite you putting in doubt me doing a good job.
Last but not least important point for me: I kindly but firmly ask you as well not to write sentences like "Your barking about it will no scare me away....". I have first no prerogative and "power" to do so, secondly it is not even my intention, and thirdly, it does not appear to me having barked by any means!
Thanks and best regards,
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The last time we clashed you were quite clear about not wanting my respect:
I have always been clear about my positon: I am independent regarding camera matters, unlike you. I am a photographer. Not in the sense that you claim to be ( http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....ndpost&p=124541 ), but a real photographer, who makes his living with photography and who lives for it:
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....ndpost&p=143490 On top of that I have quite precisely explained my position in a PM, sent to you on October 10th 2007. Asking for a declaration in public while I have voluntarily made the effort to tell you exactly where I'm coming from is rather dishonest, I would say.
It was merely you who has questioned the quality of my information several times already, while trying to put in your "weight" as a Sinar representative. Still, so far my information has proved to be correct. My claims about the availability of the Phase backs for the 6008 are just one example. My pointing at public sources was just because I felt I needed to offer some "proof", but I would never have done so wouldn't I have known it was correct at a deeper level. I have reported all kinds of backround information regarding the Hy6, its development and the announcement of several products for it, like the 45 degree prism finder, which you never mentioned, but is available now, as predicted by me. I even had to set straight some of your claims regarding the Hy6. Does that make me the spokesman of all Rolleiflex matters? No, I wish someone would do a better job than I do regarding this brand. Does this mean that I should leave talking about these matters to the officials? Hopefully not, given the very poor job that they have been doing in providing relevant information to us, photographers (and that even includes you). Your barking about it will no scare me away, if that is what you would like to know. And regarding the matter of "respect": is there anything more I should "enlighten us all" about?