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« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2007, 05:26:15 pm »

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I do not know why all these posts to get to the bottom of things.  Just canel your Amazon order and purchase from Peachpit.  Let Jeff and his publisher sort out there Amazon problem.  If you really want the book now, just order from Peachpit.
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If you would read before you react you would see that my book is on the way from Amazon.com. If you read my earlier post before reacting you would see what my options were. If you understood that I live accross the border and that situation constrains options, you would understand why I did what I did. If you stop long enough to think about the strategy I undertook for helping to stimulate the correction of a problem that will also help other people in the same predicament you will understand why I posted seveal times on this subject. When I was in grade three more decades ago than I care to think about we had a workbook called "Think and Do". The idea stuck and I recommend it.  
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« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2007, 03:05:14 pm »

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If you would read before you react you would see that my book is on the way from Amazon.com. If you read my earlier post before reacting you would see what my options were. If you understood that I live accross the border and that situation constrains options, you would understand why I did what I did. If you stop long enough to think about the strategy I undertook for helping to stimulate the correction of a problem that will also help other people in the same predicament you will understand why I posted seveal times on this subject. When I was in grade three more decades ago than I care to think about we had a workbook called "Think and Do". The idea stuck and I recommend it. 
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I have read your posts on this thread.  My reaction is that you hijacked the thread so you (1 guy) could get the book at the most internet affordable price to you. I am sure all are glad your order has been fulfilled.  I look forward to comments on this thread about Jeff's work rather than the Amazon.com order process.  
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« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2007, 03:23:11 pm »

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I have read your posts on this thread.  My reaction is that you hijacked the thread so you (1 guy) could get the book at the most internet affordable price to you. I am sure all are glad your order has been fulfilled.  I look forward to comments on this thread about Jeff's work rather than the Amazon.com order process. 
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Nothing I wrote prevented you or anyone else from writing-in anything you or they wished on this subject. It's impossible to "hijack" a thread. The example of the problem I had is being experienced by many others and if what I did - more than you know about - will help unstick this problem for many others, it will have made a substantial contribution. The Amazon order process is important to all people - especially in Canada - who will need to have the book before they can use this thread to comment on what is inside it.
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« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2007, 04:04:54 pm »

Dear member 29,338,
I cannot be sure how long you may have observed LL forums prior to joining.
LL  forums are highly respected contributions to the global conversation on photography.
Many contributors, and none more so than Mark Segal , give much of their valuable time to assist their fellow image makers. Generally they follow understood conventions of rhetoric. Alain Briot , who has a PhD in this area , might correct me on this , if I am in error.
As I see it the value of conversation is that new knowledge is derived from the the mutivalencies of thought patterns. That is, in this case, that a thread announcing a book that many members will want to read, has been difficult to obtain, and that efforts are being made to ascertain the reasons for this and to take corrective action. The solution to a specific problem often has wider implications. For better or worse , many members , throughout the world , purchase books from Amazon. It is very possible that solving this problem may facilitate an increased level of service to all.
Mark's always well reasoned and generous comments , are greatly appreciated .
His restrained and reply indicates the level of etiquette most of us wish maintained.
I note that Jeff Shewe, who started this thread and who co-authored the book  has made considerable effort to act in the direction of the thread , which is, in any case, about supply , not content.
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« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2007, 04:28:36 pm »

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...about supply , not content.
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Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

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« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2007, 04:50:19 pm »

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Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

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Jeff, Yes Indeed! It's even more self-evident than love and marriage, ain't it?  

Brian, thanks for those generous comments. I appreciate it, and I would like to think that between the efforts of Jeff, Nancy Ruentzel, myself and indeed anyone else who took some time to occupy the minds at Amazon.com on this issue that it will be generally helpful to the community as a whole - not only for this book but for a string of others coming down the pike - two of which to watch out for in particular will be David Blatner's "Real World Adobe Photoshop CS3" and Katrin Eismann's new book "The Creative Digital Darkroom", both of which are available from Amazon on a pre-order basis, much as was Jeff's.

I should conclude by saying that I shall remain a customer of Amazon.com, because when their system works it is by far the least expensive and most efficient way to buy these books that I know of. It can be a great resource and they owe it to themselves and to their customers to keep it that way. I think by giving them a bit of a going-over this time around, perhaps we've been more helpful to them than they themselves may appreciate
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« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2007, 04:59:24 pm »

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Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

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As recommended by another poster last week, I canceled my Amazon order placed many months ago and ordered from Peachpit.  Having received the book already, I look forward to a good read over the Thanksgiving weekend!
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« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2007, 07:54:08 pm »

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Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

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Just FYI
I had ordered the book through Amazon and also got the e-mail one week ago about the delay. At that point I had the option to accept their new estimated delivery date, or cancel the order. I had until Dec. 14 to decide. Since the original order involved another book, which was shipped immediatly, I was in no dire rush to elevate my blood pressure over something that was out of my hands. I decided to wait and see what would happen.
Today, I was notified that it was shipped and should arrive the 23rd.
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« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2007, 08:00:45 pm »

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Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

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So, then, will Michael host the official RWCR Q and A?  Should there be a separate forum for this and the (warning, thinly veiled request ahead) upcoming video?
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« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2007, 08:41:27 pm »

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So, then, will Michael host the official RWCR Q and A?  Should there be a separate forum for this and the (warning, thinly veiled request ahead) upcoming video?
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No need for a separate forum I wouldn't think (unless Michael thinks so) and yes, there is discussion of a Camera Raw vid tut in the not too distant future...
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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2007, 09:13:32 pm »

Quote from: Schewe,Nov 20 2007, 09:28 PM
Well, when people actually start getting books in their hands, I hope to answer questions about content as well. But for that, they need the books!

Yip.
And an apology for the typo, Jeff
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2007, 12:23:30 pm »

Last week, I posted that I had cancelled an Amazon order and ordered directly from Peachpit Press. They (and FedEx) came through -- book arrived today.

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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2007, 12:28:46 pm »

In case someone's interested:

Located in Germany, I ordered Jeff's RWCR CS3 (along with two other books) via Amazon.com (U.S. site) on Nov 11th, 2007 and got an estimated shipping date of Jan 11th, 2008. Actual shipping date: Nov 20th, 2007 (i. e. yesterday); estimated delivery date: Dec 7th, 2007.

So the book was shipped almost two months earlier than initially estimated. Currently it's on its way across the Big Pond via Standard Int'l Shipment. I could have ordered it at Amazon.de but there it is still marked as "not yet released, accepting pre-orders"---and when ordering in Germany the book is more than twice as much (EUR 44 = $64 US) as when ordered in the USA ($30 US) even though it's the very same book, no German translation.

Now I hardly can wait for the book to arrive. I already have Bruce's RWCR CS2---and RWIS CS2, too---and appreciate them very much.

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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2007, 02:37:00 pm »

Hey Mark,

Mine came today. I hope yours comes soon. But it's only fair that I should get mine first, since you already know so much more about this stuff than I do. So this will give me some time to catch up.    

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« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2007, 03:42:29 pm »

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Mine came today. I hope yours comes soon. But it's only fair that I should get mine first, since you already know so much more about this stuff than I do. So this will give me some time to catch up.   

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Thanks Eric - not yet in my case. Shipped on the 18th from somewhere in the USA. It's probably stuck in some morass at the border.

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« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2007, 06:45:35 pm »

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Thanks Eric - not yet in my case. Shipped on the 18th from somewhere in the USA. It's probably stuck in some morass at the border.

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I think they need to quarantine it for at least 72 hours at the border and then inspect every page for possible hidden terrorist messages.

Good luck. Go out and take some pictures while you're waiting.

Eric
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« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2007, 06:56:17 pm »

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Good luck. Go out and take some pictures while you're waiting.

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Well, ya never know who ya can trust these days, eh?  

Anyhow, I'm working down a huge back-log of image processing - will be nice to see once that book arrives what moves and combos of moves I may have been missing!

Have a good Thanksgiving Holiday.
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« Reply #77 on: November 22, 2007, 09:29:11 pm »

Update - my copy arrived this evening. I've been eagerly browsing through and reading sections of key interest as they caught my eye. Systematic reading starts tomorrow. I've seen enough to know that this book is HUGELY important. It has tremendous coverage, real technical depth, and the added bonus of chapters on Bridge, DNG and Metadata. The layout and print job are very, very good. Congratulations Jeff, and would that we could congratulate Bruce as well. I'm sure he's smiling on it from up there.
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« Reply #78 on: November 23, 2007, 12:00:02 pm »

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Just FYI
I had ordered the book through Amazon and also got the e-mail one week ago about the delay. At that point I had the option to accept their new estimated delivery date, or cancel the order. I had until Dec. 14 to decide. Since the original order involved another book, which was shipped immediatly, I was in no dire rush to elevate my blood pressure over something that was out of my hands. I decided to wait and see what would happen.
Today, I was notified that it was shipped and should arrive the 23rd.
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Just an update. My copy arrived as promised this morning and I quickly thumbed through it. Having previously read Bruce's earlier editions, my initial take on this version is as if Mr. Fraser was writing through Jeff's hand. Very nicely done Jeff.
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« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2007, 07:55:41 pm »

I have posted a review of Real World Camera Raw on the Amazon.com website. You can see it here: RWCRwPSCS3-Amazon, 3rd review.
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