GreTag Eye One versus Eye One Pro

[JerryReed]

Does anyone utilize the GTMB Eye One Pro who might be able to tell me what advantages it offers?  I cannot seem to figure out the differences from the X-Rite sight.

Thanks,

Jerry Reed

[eronald]

EyeOne Pro is a spectrophotometer, it reads spectra, can read any screen in emission mode, and paper in reflection mode, and even be used to calibrate a projector. The EyeOne Display is a colorimeter, used for screen calibration of compatible screens.

EyeOne Display is a cheap good piece of hardware for screens; the EyeOne Pro is a more expensive color geek piece of hardware that is fairly universal for screen and printer calibration, but its ability to calibrate printers depends on the software you have. It is supported by practically every existing pro software calibration package, some of which run into the thousands of $$$.

Does anyone utilize the GTMB Eye One Pro who might be able to tell me what advantages it offers?  I cannot seem to figure out the differences from the X-Rite sight.

Thanks,

Jerry Reed
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[digitaldog]

Does anyone utilize the GTMB Eye One Pro who might be able to tell me what advantages it offers?  I cannot seem to figure out the differences from the X-Rite sight.

Thanks,

Jerry Reed
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If your goal is to calibrate and profile a display, you just need the colorimeter (in fact, its going to be better for this task assuming you're not working with some exotic LED or wide gamut display).

The Spectrophotometer is ideal for making printer profiles. You can use it on the display too, but its not optimal for the task.

[eronald]

If your goal is to calibrate and profile a display, you just need the colorimeter (in fact, its going to be better for this task assuming you're not working with some exotic LED or wide gamut display).

The Spectrophotometer is ideal for making printer profiles. You can use it on the display too, but its not optimal for the task.
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I look forward to meeting you next week in Albuqerque, Andrew !

Edmund

[Wayne Fox]

If your goal is to calibrate and profile a display, you just need the colorimeter (in fact, its going to be better for this task assuming you're not working with some exotic LED or wide gamut display).

The Spectrophotometer is ideal for making printer profiles. You can use it on the display too, but its not optimal for the task.
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So your saying for optimal results if doing your own paper profiles, it is best to have two devices, one a dedicated colorimeter for screen calibration and another for paper profiling?  Any idea how significant the difference is?

[digitaldog]

So your saying for optimal results if doing your own paper profiles, it is best to have two devices, one a dedicated colorimeter for screen calibration and another for paper profiling?  Any idea how significant the difference is?
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You absolutely want a good Spectrophotometer for paper profiles.

Where a Spectrophotometer isn't as well behaved for display profiling is dark areas. If you've got one, it will work but the calibration of the dark areas of a display suffer. So yes, for optimal results, you'd want both. But again, if you're working with a colorimeter, the filters are expecting some kind of device (usually CCFL). An off the shelf colorimeter isn't going to work very well with either a wide gamut display or one that isn't CCFL (like an LED). Some users are complaining about the quality of profiles they get using a colorimeter on the new Macbook's using an LED, this is why.

[JerryReed]

Okay, thanks.  I bought the Eye One Photo package a few years ago, but did not realize that the spectro in that package was referred to as "Pro".  I saw somewhere that nomenclature, but thought there might be another Spectrophotometer.  Thanks for clarifying my confusion.  I own it already.


Jerry Reed

You absolutely want a good Spectrophotometer for paper profiles.

Where a Spectrophotometer isn't as well behaved for display profiling is dark areas. If you've got one, it will work but the calibration of the dark areas of a display suffer. So yes, for optimal results, you'd want both. But again, if you're working with a colorimeter, the filters are expecting some kind of device (usually CCFL). An off the shelf colorimeter isn't going to work very well with either a wide gamut display or one that isn't CCFL (like an LED). Some users are complaining about the quality of profiles they get using a colorimeter on the new Macbook's using an LED, this is why.
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[JeffKohn]

Where a Spectrophotometer isn't as well behaved for display profiling is dark areas. If you've got one, it will work but the calibration of the dark areas of a display suffer. So yes, for optimal results, you'd want both. But again, if you're working with a colorimeter, the filters are expecting some kind of device (usually CCFL). An off the shelf colorimeter isn't going to work very well with either a wide gamut display or one that isn't CCFL (like an LED). Some users are complaining about the quality of profiles they get using a colorimeter on the new Macbook's using an LED, this is why.

You know, I've had my suspicions that the Eye One Pro wasn't sensitive enough in emissive mode to really nail the darker tones when calibrating a monitor. I always had problems getting really good grayscale tracking in the darker tones with my CRT, and now with a new LCD I see the same issue.

Do you use a spectro or colorimeter for your wide-gamut LCD? The product info for the new Spyder3 colorimeter claims that it should be well-suited for wide-gamut LCD's, I hope that's true (I have one on order).

[digitaldog]

You know, I've had my suspicions that the Eye One Pro wasn't sensitive enough in emissive mode to really nail the darker tones when calibrating a monitor. I always had problems getting really good grayscale tracking in the darker tones with my CRT, and now with a new LCD I see the same issue.

This isn't just an EyeOne Spectrophotometer issue (GMB however is one of the only companies that has the ability to do both kinds of measurements due to their patient).

Do you use a spectro or colorimeter for your wide-gamut LCD? The product info for the new Spyder3 colorimeter claims that it should be well-suited for wide-gamut LCD's, I hope that's true (I have one on order).

For my 2690, I'm using the EyeOne Display-2 which at least with the tests Karl did on his, was only off 500K in setting white point. I can live with that. I'd prefer to have the black nailed better using this instrument. On the NEC truly wide gamut LED, they have a special EyeOne Display2 with tuned filters so that is ideal in this instance. As for the Spyder 3, we'll see. That they have more filters doesn't automatically mean its any better for this task. The last product wasn't so hot. And ideally, you have filters that are specifically mated to the display as we had with the Sony Artisan and Barco's.

[eronald]

Just download the latest software from the Xrite site and you'll be fine.

Re the colorimeter vs spectro issue, it's pretty obvious that a device which measures 60 or so buckets is going to have noise issues in each bucket which a device using just 3 pails or 6 will not have. Obvious physics. However, as Andrew and I have pointed out, the spectros are fairly agnostic with respect to display technology, and I guess everyone on this forum will own at least one wide-spectrum display within 2 years from now.

Edmund

Okay, thanks.  I bought the Eye One Photo package a few years ago, but did not realize that the spectro in that package was referred to as "Pro".  I saw somewhere that nomenclature, but thought there might be another Spectrophotometer.  Thanks for clarifying my confusion.  I own it already.
Jerry Reed
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