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Graham Mitchell

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« on: September 27, 2007, 08:25:55 pm »

This was a simple project - I just needed to construct an adapter to fit my e22 digital back to my old Arca Swiss 6x9 camera - an adapter which is not commercially available as far as I know.

Once the plans were drawn, the part was ready the next day:





A quick test shot to check that all is working:

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 08:45:55 pm »

WOW!   Thats great.  I am an avid DIY'r and I have thought about DIY adapter plates.  Thats great.  How much did it cost you?
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 08:51:04 pm »

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This was a simple project - I just needed to construct an adapter to fit my e22 digital back to my old Arca Swiss 6x9 camera - an adapter which is not commercially available as far as I know.

Once the plans were drawn, the part was ready the next day:
Nice job! Looks very good.

One more reason to be happy that you have an open system back with interchangeable mount!

Looks like the live video feature works well for you to focus and compose.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 11:17:19 pm »

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This was a simple project - I just needed to construct an adapter to fit my e22 digital back to my old Arca Swiss 6x9 camera - an adapter which is not commercially available as far as I know.

Once the plans were drawn, the part was ready the next day:





A quick test shot to check that all is working:


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Huge [span style=\'font-size:30pt;line-height:100%\']+[/span] goes to foto-z.

Very influential and refreshing idea for all of us in future to be as determined as you have been!
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 12:57:25 am »

You make it look very simple!  Nice!
Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2007, 02:52:35 am »

Dear Graham,

great initiative and remarquable work.

And many thanks for this informative post.

Best regards,
Thierry

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 03:06:51 am »

Graham,



Could you post a 100% crop as well (just out of curiosity)? Nice job, BTW.


Thx!
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007, 07:53:19 am »

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WOW!   Thats great.  I am an avid DIY'r and I have thought about DIY adapter plates.  Thats great.  How much did it cost you?

An engineering friend did it for a meal

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One more reason to be happy that you have an open system back with interchangeable mount!

Yes! Not sure you could do this with a Phase back.

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Looks like the live video feature works well for you to focus and compose.
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Actually, this back doesn't include liveview. I have to use a ground glass to focus, or shoot tethered and confirm focus that way (preferred method as the sensor stays safely protected the whole shoot).
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007, 08:02:38 am »

DIY projects are great fun and teaches a lot on your camera equipment. I did something similar for Phase One and Sinar. This is medium format tuning! Hopefully more people will show their inventions.









The bellows is made of neoprene by hand glueing seems together. Little tricky but very strong and durable construction. Besides the Sinar looks so dated with original wideangle bellows. The frames were stolen from a used wideangle bellows.

It works really well and cost is marginal. I basically had all parts. The plate is made of a lensboard from an old 4x5 lens which was totally worthless anyhow. The PhaseOne adapter came with my Horseman SWD2. The bellows is made of neoprene which you can buy from many diving stores. Cost about 10 eur + glue another 10 eur.

The plate itself is slightly machined to fit the PhaseOne mount.

It is possible to use many kinds of lenses. I bought a used Sinar Digital lens from Ebay with DB mount and that works really well.

My 2 cents,

Patrik
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 08:07:01 am »

would he do a plate for my old Sinar "Norma" (1949) for the same?

 

Thierry

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2007, 09:21:43 am »

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would he do a plate for my old Sinar "Norma" (1949) for the same?

 

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Would love to help but we would need 'Norma' in front of us to design the plate
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2007, 09:24:45 am »

thanks Graham, was more a joke than serious, although the Norma stands behind me.
Would be great fun to use it with digital: a "conflict" of generations?

Kind regards,
Thierry

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2007, 09:31:20 am »

Patrik,

I noticed that you have a standard cable release off the front of your camera.  What is the other cable coming off the lens?  Is that  PC extender?  If so, where did you purchase it?

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Chris

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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2007, 09:40:03 am »

Dear Chris,

this might be the Sinar "Y-Synchro Cable" (Item 521.51.010).

Best regards,
Thierry

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I noticed that you have a standard cable release off the front of your camera.  What is the other cable coming off the lens?  Is that  PC extender?  If so, where did you purchase it?

Thank you,
Chris

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2007, 10:52:39 am »

@PatrikR

Why did you need a neoprene bellows? Do you get any benefits from it besides waterproofing, and the mentioned stylishness (relativity, relativity) and durability?

I could imagine glueing the "ends" of the bellows to en existing frame was trickey though....how long has it held up allready?
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2007, 11:50:45 am »

This is a little off the subject but here is my Photo DIY.  I turned my Honda Element into the perfect photo/camping vehicle.  Complete with Compressor Fridge, Sink with running water, Lots of storage, folding table, and bench that converts into a bed.  Check out the photos of the project just before it was completed  -   http://jpjespersen.blogspot.com/2006/12/ta...st-lots-of.html
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2007, 12:45:06 pm »

Great work!

The problem also has a commercial solution, but I bet your DIY was much cheaper.

Arca Swiss sells a 6x9 Hasselblad adapter (I have one). With a Hasselblad plate, your e22 should mount to the A/S hasselblad adapter. This would involve 2 plates (unless you already had the e22 Hass plate).

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This was a simple project - I just needed to construct an adapter to fit my e22 digital back to my old Arca Swiss 6x9 camera - an adapter which is not commercially available as far as I know.

Once the plans were drawn, the part was ready the next day:





A quick test shot to check that all is working:


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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2007, 12:51:22 pm »

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Patrik,

I noticed that you have a standard cable release off the front of your camera.  What is the other cable coming off the lens?  Is that  PC extender?  If so, where did you purchase it?

Thank you,
Chris

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I'm using standard Sinar Auto Aperture cable release. The cable between shutter and P45 is PhaseOne cable with a tiny switch that allows for the back to wake up.

The shutter is very old actually it has X and M syncs so it's probably from the seventies or earlier but still works.

Patrik
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2007, 01:35:58 pm »

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Why did you need a neoprene bellows? Do you get any benefits from it besides waterproofing, and the mentioned stylishness (relativity, relativity) and durability?

I could imagine glueing the "ends" of the bellows to en existing frame was trickey though....how long has it held up allready?
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Well waterproofing is no big deal here obviously but I wanted to make a bellows that would look nice and make the Sinar P2 look cool with the new digital back. Besides I hated how the Sinar WideAngle Bellows was always in the way of checking aperture and so on. Also neoprene is a material that allows DIY construction of light tight seams. It's relatively easy but ofcourse has a learning curve like everything else.

The bellows is very very strong. It's not glued to the Sinar frame it's screwed.

Patrik
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2007, 10:15:50 pm »

Dear Patrick,

you can find out the production year ny looking at the 2 last figures in the number engraved on the top of the shutter and BELOW the little slider to attach in/on the frame.

Best regards,
Thierry

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The shutter is very old actually it has X and M syncs so it's probably from the seventies or earlier but still works.

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