HP APS or i1display 2

[sloow]

I am looking for a screen calibrator and would like some advice.. I have a Z3100 which has the built in spectrometer, and am looking at the x rite i1display 2 to complement it, but was wondering if I should just spend the extra 3 or 400 and get the HP APS which is the same thing including the software, if I understand correctly. I tend to take the cheap road generally, but sometimes that's false economy. Mostly I am printing from photoshop, if that makes any difference.

Paul

[neil snape]

I am looking for a screen calibrator and would like some advice.. I have a Z3100 which has the built in spectrometer, and am looking at the x rite i1display 2 to complement it, but was wondering if I should just spend the extra 3 or 400 and get the HP APS which is the same thing including the software, if I understand correctly. I tend to take the cheap road generally, but sometimes that's false economy. Mostly I am printing from photoshop, if that makes any difference.

Paul
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The HP colorimeter is an i1D2. It is coded to run on other software too so it is just as well that you need an i1D2 as you can get this for a very good price with the APS software at the same time. I still think APS is a must have. The recent release included the essential multi sheet chart printing and reading, hence you can use your Z to profile any printer you like including your Z, on more reasonably sized paper, with the superior results on most papers. I wouldn't hesitate. It's quite an application for the price and I feel the i1 is thrown in for next to nothing as the profile creation and editing package is a hybrid Profile Maker/ Match and iSiS all in one.

[Mark Lindquist]

The HP colorimeter is an i1D2. It is coded to run on other software too so it is just as well that you need an i1D2 as you can get this for a very good price with the APS software at the same time. I still think APS is a must have. The recent release included the essential multi sheet chart printing and reading, hence you can use your Z to profile any printer you like including your Z, on more reasonably sized paper, with the superior results on most papers. I wouldn't hesitate. It's quite an application for the price and I feel the i1 is thrown in for next to nothing as the profile creation and editing package is a hybrid Profile Maker/ Match and iSiS all in one.
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Neil - are you saying you can do profiles for ANY printer with the APS?  Like even profiles for Epson or Canon printers?

So I guess that means you print the target on an Epson printer, then load the chart into the Z3100 with APS and it will read the chart and make the profile?

If what you're saying is correct, than , man oh man - that is a deal.

Mark

[rdonson]

Neil - are you saying you can do profiles for ANY printer with the APS?  Like even profiles for Epson or Canon printers?

So I guess that means you print the target on an Epson printer, then load the chart into the Z3100 with APS and it will read the chart and make the profile?

If what you're saying is correct, than , man oh man - that is a deal.

Mark
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Yes and yes, quite a deal.

[neil snape]

Neil - are you saying you can do profiles for ANY printer with the APS?  Like even profiles for Epson or Canon printers?

So I guess that means you print the target on an Epson printer, then load the chart into the Z3100 with APS and it will read the chart and make the profile?

If what you're saying is correct, than , man oh man - that is a deal.

Mark
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Yes any printer , yet there is a minimum size of sheets.  I have only to date put A3 sheets to the test. For me that is okay. The Z3100 can feed A4 or letter but is a bit finicky on doing so. Already with A3 the spectro has to recalibrate itself each load of printed charts so it is longer than if you used a handheld i1.
Yet it is fully automated after the sheets are loaded.

[sloow]

This thing sounds better all the time.

thanks for the response, Neil

Paul

[Mark Lindquist]

Yes any printer , yet there is a minimum size of sheets.  I have only to date put A3 sheets to the test. For me that is okay. The Z3100 can feed A4 or letter but is a bit finicky on doing so. Already with A3 the spectro has to recalibrate itself each load of printed charts so it is longer than if you used a handheld i1.
Yet it is fully automated after the sheets are loaded.
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Hi Neil -
So a 13x19 sheet would be no problem?

I'm thinking it would be great to be able to profile papers on my Epson 4800 and 2200 printers.
Max size on the 2200 is 13x19 .
So really, the APS allows this?


Man - that could put the profiling people out of business...

Mark

[neil snape]

Hi Neil -
So a 13x19 sheet would be no problem?

I'm thinking it would be great to be able to profile papers on my Epson 4800 and 2200 printers.
Max size on the 2200 is 13x19 .
So really, the APS allows this?
Man - that could put the profiling people out of business...

Mark
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Yes it's easy to do. All the charts are saved out as tiffs or PDF if you're printing through Quartz to the desktop. Print them on whatever printer, Import and read the charts either CMYK or rgb on the Z. The charts are Tc9.18 for the best rgb, and ECI 2002 for CMYK. The profiles can be edited if necessary for either leg rgb return to monitor or Lab to printer if they don't jive to your eyes/lighting. You can even pass a profile off to friendly users of PM5, where you drag and drop them onto redefine the parameters such as lighting correlation, rendering style etc.

[neil snape]

Good news , for the users as crazy as I am, V1.3 of APS prints on any width with a minimum of 30 or so CM of length. Actually A4 is 21x29.7 cm so it is a little shorter. Works fine and will print the Tc 9.18 chart in 5 pages. Now it's not that practical as each page has to be loaded and the spectro calibrated, but it is nice that HP listened and made XRite add even the smallest of pages. Okay not for mini printers, dye sub 4x6 etc but for inkjets this is great.

BTW I just noticed you can calibrate the loaded media directly in APS without returning to Print Center. On top, APS will not profile an uncalibrated paper, so again clear forward thinking to ensure an optimal sure result.