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« on: September 15, 2007, 11:38:16 am »

Since I posted this image before, here is the before and after.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2007, 11:53:05 am »

Hi!

Thanks Andre for sharing this excellent example! Looks like this thread has lots of constructive potential.

Cheers,
J
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2007, 01:16:48 pm »

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Hi!

Thanks Andre for sharing this excellent example! Looks like this thread has lots of constructive potential.

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Thanks.
If anyone has questions this is the place to ask.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2007, 01:47:45 pm »

Another before and after.
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2007, 03:36:22 pm »

Whats PP?
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2007, 03:46:11 pm »

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Post-Processing
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2007, 03:50:12 pm »

Upps...

I thought PP meant Polish Princes and posted accordingly.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2007, 03:57:58 pm »

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Since I posted this image before, here is the before and after.
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that skin tone cleaned up beautifully, how did you do this?
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2007, 03:59:09 pm »

Good Start ! May I suggest people post fairly hi-rez shots, so that we can retouch and repost them ?

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2007, 07:54:36 pm »

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Good Start ! May I suggest people post fairly hi-rez shots, so that we can retouch and repost them ?

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Hi

This is great thread. It would be good to hear technics also, both of how you captured the photos and how you PP them.

Much kind thanks.

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2007, 08:35:04 pm »

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Hi André, I'v taken the liberty of doing a slight retouch.
BTW - incredible job on those eyes!

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2007, 09:55:21 pm »

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Hi André, I'v taken the liberty of doing a slight retouch.
BTW - incredible job on those eyes!

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Nice job to both of you!
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2007, 10:00:51 pm »

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Nice job to both of you!
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Here's the before-after, I've built on Andrés retouch, burnt it in a bit more to lift the face off the neck and define the cheeks. Also a hue change which I like but which people in the US probably wouldn't like.

Although I can clean up skin, no problemo, I'm completely incapable of doing the heavy repaint that André did on the eye contour - here I guess I would rely on the makeup person to give me the basic form I need rather than add it in post.

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2007, 10:27:51 pm »

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Here's the before-after, I've built on Andrés retouch, burnt it in a bit more to lift the face off the neck and define the cheeks. Also a hue change which I like but which people in the US probably wouldn't like.

Although I can clean up skin, no problemo, I'm completely incapable of doing the heavy repaint that André did on the eye contour - here I guess I would rely on the makeup person to give me the basic form I need rather than add it in post.

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Nice rendition Edmund. However, if you pay a little more attention on the fingers you will see that the Andrés version has very nice touch overall including the fingers, around nails etc., unlike yours with orange and red color or it could be that you like it that way? not sure.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2007, 10:49:21 pm »

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Nice rendition Edmund. However, if you pay a little more attention on the fingers you will see that the Andrés version has very nice touch overall including the fingers, around nails etc., unlike yours with orange and red color or it could be that you like it that way? not sure.
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Oscar,
 My bad!  here is the lady with the hands back to the original - more or less.
I just hope that people who have actually taken Photoshop courses can do better than this

Edmund
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2007, 11:23:34 pm »

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Oscar,
 My bad!  here is the lady with the hands back to the original - more or less.
I just hope that people who have actually taken Photoshop courses can do better than this

Edmund
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I like the before myself.  I dislike the fingers on both of them..blotchy and green.  Maybe my monitor.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2007, 11:28:21 pm »

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I like the before myself.  I dislike the fingers on both of them..blotchy and green.  Maybe my monitor.
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Actually, I'm more interested in what you people think of the denser face and the cheek definition, here André and I are making different decisions. I really didn't intend to do much to the hands.

Edmund
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2007, 12:42:46 am »

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Hi Andre,
Your before and after example is an amazing transformation.  Beautiful
work!  

I can see how you might have stretched the lips with the warp tool (assuming
photoshop).  Did you warp the eyes too, to get the upward
slant?  The forehead looks narrower in the after version.  Is the
appearance of a narrower forehead done through shading (i'd use
a curve adjustment layer with a layer mask for something like this), or
did you also reshape the head slightly?  The subtle reshaping of the
chin is very nicely done as is the retouching in general.

Is the amount of editing you did here fairly typical in fashion work?

I'm curious because I'm primarily a nature shooter.  I do some
pretty extensive edits in photoshop when the need arises.  I haven't
done a lot of head shots.  Your example is very instructive.

Thanks for the posting,
Tony
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2007, 12:55:25 am »

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Actually, I'm more interested in what you people think of the denser face and the cheek definition, here André and I are making different decisions. I really didn't intend to do much to the hands.

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I like the cheek definition a lot.  I can't say I like one better than the other.
You've created a different effect, which is quite nice.
Tony
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2007, 01:15:03 am »

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Another before and after.
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Two questions mr willow

How did you warm the skin ?

Also, no disrespect, there is a certain blotchyness (veins/blood under the skin) that I have tried to show in this crop

basically where the skin is a bit darker it seems to go magenta/red too

This is something I struggle with too

I can be removed by cloning but I am looking for some kind of filter or speedy method of dealing

I have tried replace colour, also various bluring but I cant get a fast method sorted

S
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