Z3100 Profiling Issues

[Mark Lindquist]

I'm a new Z3100 44" user and I would like to thank everyone here for the really helpful information.

While waiting for my printer to arrive I have had a good time studying up on the issues here - thanks!

So my question / issue with profiling is this:

I want to profile Breathing Color Matte Canvas,  and knowing the media fairly well, I'm quite sure it will require a much longer drying time before reading the target and creating the profile.

I've played around just printing the target for later use, as the manual says on page 62:
" NOTE  if you would like to use a longer drying time, you can ask the HP color center to create the test chart without going on to create a profile Mac OS: print ICC profiling chart).  Then, later, you can restart the HP color center and ask it to create a profile using the test chart you have already created (Mac OS: scan ICC profiling chart and create ICC profile).

It says the the spectrophotometer takes a while to warm up before it's ready to scan.

So I've tried this with mixed results, all failures.  Essentially, it fails to reload the paper, and it doesn't seem to do what is says it will do (profile a previously printed test chart).

Once I got past the issue of the cutter automatically cutting the paper after printing the chart (I was using some test paper (not BC Canvas) then the issue was how to roll back the chart, then reload it for the profiling to occur.  So ironically, the cutter automatically cuts the obligatory 2" off the test chart when reloading the paper and fails to read the chart saying it has failed, try again??  So the circus continues.

Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?  I'd like to print the test chart late in the evening, then come back in the morning after ample drying time and make the profile.

Another question:  perhaps some guidance as to what the optimal setting or canvas type for making this specific canvas profile.

Thanks very much for any suggestions, as I say, I am thrilled there is so much great info on the Z3100 here.  This is one incredible machine, major design coolness.

Best -

Mark

[Harry Carpenter]

I cant help you with this yet, but I have an engineer coming today to look at the pizza whell assembly so I will try and pick his brains. This is something that should be adequately explained in the instructions. I am just wondering though should it be cut off and fed back in as a sheet rather than keeping it on the roll. Just to try and avoid the first 2 inches being chopped.
If you do get an answer before me can you post it here as I also plan to try their canvas, if I can sort out all of the other colour issues concerning the reds.
All the best.

[SeanPuckett]

Try cutting the chart off the roll and loading it back in as a sheet for rescanning.  I use the rescan option for times when I apply a coating to the media.  I do, however, keep a heat gun handy to accelerate dry times when I'm in a big hurry.  the Z inks can be a bit smudgy (esp matte black) when not quite fully cured.

[Mark Lindquist]

Try cutting the chart off the roll and loading it back in as a sheet for rescanning.  I use the rescan option for times when I apply a coating to the media.  I do, however, keep a heat gun handy to accelerate dry times when I'm in a big hurry.  the Z inks can be a bit smudgy (esp matte black) when not quite fully cured.
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The heat gun is a very good idea Sean - I was thinking about a blow dryer.  I'll try loading a cut sheet back in, but I'm wondering how you get around the SOP automatic 2"cut?  (I guess maybe it doesn't do that for a sheet feed).

Thanks for your response and ideas, I appreciate it very much.

Best-

Mark

[Mark Lindquist]

I cant help you with this yet, but I have an engineer coming today to look at the pizza whell assembly so I will try and pick his brains. This is something that should be adequately explained in the instructions. I am just wondering though should it be cut off and fed back in as a sheet rather than keeping it on the roll. Just to try and avoid the first 2 inches being chopped.
If you do get an answer before me can you post it here as I also plan to try their canvas, if I can sort out all of the other colour issues concerning the reds.
All the best.
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Hi Harry -
Yes, definitely ask the tech about this issue, if you can and remember.
I think it's just a matter of perseverance with the reds issue.  Try not to get too freaked out about it and just keep testing.  Working through these issues sometimes really pays off.
Thanks-

Mark

[Harry Carpenter]

Mark.
I asked the engineer today and he wasnt aware that you could rescan a profile chart at a later point. So no further forward I am afraid.

[SeanPuckett]

The heat gun is a very good idea Sean - I was thinking about a blow dryer.  I'll try loading a cut sheet back in, but I'm wondering how you get around the SOP automatic 2"cut?  (I guess maybe it doesn't do that for a sheet feed).

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Mark,

No worries -- when you load a sheet, the printer doesn't automatically trim it.

(You don't want to load roll paper as "sheet" to bypass the trim-off though, because the printer will measure how long the roll is as if it were a sheet.  You'll wind up with paper all over the floor, kind of like a toddler with the loo roll.)

[Mark Lindquist]

Mark,

No worries -- when you load a sheet, the printer doesn't automatically trim it.

(You don't want to load roll paper as "sheet" to bypass the trim-off though, because the printer will measure how long the roll is as if it were a sheet.  You'll wind up with paper all over the floor, kind of like a toddler with the loo roll.)
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Thanks Sean and Harry - I'm in good shape now - did another post on my success - thanks again-

Mark