HP DesignJet 120NR Mac driver questions

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These questions are specific to the Macintosh and HP DesignJet 120NR users.
I have recently obtained a used HP DesignJet 120NR.
I'm using OS X 10.4.10 and HP Inkjet Driver 2.7 on a G5.

Having read Neil Snape's excellent article on ICC printing with the HP DJ130 on the Mac, I thought I would try something similar on the DJ120. However there does not appear to be the same options on the paper type/quality color pulldown in the DJ120 driver.
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There is No "Application managed" choice... only ColorSmart/SRGB or GreyScale

1) Am I out of luck with the DJ120 and limited to ColorSmart/sRGB?

2) Is there any way to use the DJ130 driver with the DJ120?

3) I am currently trying a trial version of PrintFab as a possible way around the above problems. Any one else using that?

4) If anyone is using the DJ120 with Apple's Aperture software, I'd like to find out more details as well.

I  plan to change to using the HP#85 130 inks in the future (using the 120 caps/chips) as done by Carl Hennig.

Hopefully there is someone else using a Mac and an HP DJ120 somewhere?

David
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[neil snape]

I thinks it's in Color Options Tab, no CM.
I had a HP PS 10, and a 120 too. You might want to try to find an HP RIP made by Scanvec that really runs fine with a 120.

[BCS]

I thinks it's in Color Options Tab, no CM.
I had a HP PS 10, and a 120 too. You might want to try to find an HP RIP made by Scanvec that really runs fine with a 120.
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Thanks for the reply Neil.
With the driver I have the Color Options Tab doesn't have that option, only Saturation Brightness Colortone and individual CMY sliders.

Thanks for the tip on Scanvec, I'll check that out.

-- David

[BCS]

Thanks for the reply Neil.
With the driver I have the Color Options Tab doesn't have that option, only Saturation Brightness Colortone and individual CMY sliders.

Thanks for the tip on Scanvec, I'll check that out.

-- David
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I have not had any luck finding the HP RIP for the DJ 120NR (for Mac OS X). The HP site is like an adventure game.  

I did manage to get the HP RIP for the 130NR but it, like the HP print driver, will not work unless it sees the correct ID from the printer. This is so frustrating because I'm sure the driver would work if only the printer driver could be fooled into thinking it was a 130 rather than a 120 that it was talking to.
If only the 120 driver had some way of using application managed colour.

[neil snape]

I have not had any luck finding the HP RIP for the DJ 120NR (for Mac OS X). The HP site is like an adventure game.   

I did manage to get the HP RIP for the 130NR but it, like the HP print driver, will not work unless it sees the correct ID from the printer. This is so frustrating because I'm sure the driver would work if only the printer driver could be fooled into thinking it was a 130 rather than a 120 that it was talking to.
If only the 120 driver had some way of using application managed colour.
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But what are in Color Options in the driver window?

[BCS]

But what are in Color Options in the driver window?
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Neil, , there are not any apart from Colorsmart/sRGB or Greyscale.
The Color Options are just Saturation/Brightness/Color Tone and Cyan/Mag/Yel/Black levels.
No other choices at all.




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[neil snape]

Neil, , there are not any apart from Colorsmart/sRGB or Greyscale.
The Color Options are just Saturation/Brightness/Color Tone and Cyan/Mag/Yel/Black levels.
No other choices at all.
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Right , nothing there. Where has it gone then? I am sure that when I used it I would have used it with application or no colour management. I had printed a lot of portfolio pictures so I would have done the colour transforms in Photoshop Print Preview, then no CM in the driver.
Why or where it has gone I don't know. Is there anything in the Colorsync menu, or other drop down?

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Right , nothing there. Where has it gone then? I am sure that when I used it I would have used it with application or no colour management. I had printed a lot of portfolio pictures so I would have done the colour transforms in Photoshop Print Preview, then no CM in the driver.
Why or where it has gone I don't know. Is there anything in the Colorsync menu, or other drop down?
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Neil, There isn't anything that I can see in other drop downs, in Colorsync only Color Conversion choice is "standard", the "In Printer" choice is greyed out.

Perhaps you were using an earlier version of the driver with no doubt an earlier version of OS X? - but why HP would have crippled this version I have no idea. I am using HP Inkjet Driver version 2.7 which appears to be the latest for the 120NR.  Using latest version of Tiger.

I wonder if anyone else is still using a 120NR with OS X and can comment on this?

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Neil, There isn't anything that I can see in other drop downs, in Colorsync only Color Conversion choice is "standard", the "In Printer" choice is greyed out.

Perhaps you were using an earlier version of the driver with no doubt an earlier version of OS X? - but why HP would have crippled this version I have no idea. I am using HP Inkjet Driver version 2.7 which appears to be the latest for the 120NR.  Using latest version of Tiger.

I wonder if anyone else is still using a 120NR with OS X and can comment on this?

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Neil
Today I have even gone back to the original HP CD that came with the printer and installed version 2.2 of the driver and although different in some respects, it has Color Options and Color Options 2 tabs, it still has no way to disable the color management. So I don't understand how you had that choice before?