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Hasselblad Hc 50-110 vs 50, 80 and 100
« on: August 14, 2007, 05:03:21 pm »

i'm looking at buying a hasselblad equipment, and thought of buying the HC 35mm, the 50mm and the 100 mm. but then i realized that the hc 50-110 covers alot of the focal lenght? has anyone made the comparison, and is it to heavy (i really depends on how strong one are...) for handheld?

experience anyone?

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 08:22:40 pm »

Hi Ulrik
You are looking at 2 different set-ups which comes back to your requirements. There is a lot of difference between a 50mm and 35mm, so how important is the extra wide for you? The 100mm is a fast lens enabling lower light and more critical focusing. The weight of the two options is probably not that different, considering the total kit.  I don't have the zoom but have used lenses in the 3kg region handheld before and found that as my arm got more fatigued the max shutter speed I could use kept getting less due to a less stable arm. How you shoot is important, do you want to compose and shoot quickly  or do you have time to swap lenses. Also, if shooting in an poor enviroment every time you swap lenses you are probably buiding up dust etc on the chip, so how long would it be until you have the chance to clean it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 08:55:29 pm »

I would add that if you check out Hasselblad's web site they offer MTF charts with each lens.  Personally, I am not aware that anyone has done a review on these lenses.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 09:07:00 pm »

The zoom is really heavy.  Really Heavy.  I would try to rent or play with them at a camera store.  I love my 50mm, 80mm and 120mm.  The primes are a little faster and they are lighter.  I am pretty strong and I love the 120 but I need the handstrap for a long day of shooting.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 09:28:04 pm »

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The zoom is really heavy.  Really Heavy.  I would try to rent or play with them at a camera store.  I love my 50mm, 80mm and 120mm.  The primes are a little faster and they are lighter.  I am pretty strong and I love the 120 but I need the handstrap for a long day of shooting.

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I have the zoom and  would have to agree about it being quite heavy and unwieldy. Optically, it is absolutely first rate and great if you use it on a tripod, as I do. However, if I were shooting  hand held in a commercial environment,  I would opt for the 50 and the 80 or the 100.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 10:29:47 pm »

Zoom is indeed heavy, still ok for handheld shooting at high speeds over 1/250 sec
There have been some people whos 50-110 has fallen apart when pointing the lens down.
but I think they have fixed that now, if mine is set at 90 mm and I point it down, the weight pulls it to 110mm. Other than that I am very happy with the sharpness and bouquet.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 12:08:23 am »

I have a handgrip on the hasselblad, and using the 50 - 110 mm is still very heavy.  If I don't need to move around too much, I mount the camera on a tripod and play with the zoom for the right cropping.  The lens is absolutely fantastic.

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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 12:43:53 am »

I pretty much agree with all that has been said.  Optically the zoom is as good as it gets. However, the one advantage to the 100mm besides the size, is that the bokeh is much better with the prime when shallow DOF is desired.

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I have a handgrip on the hasselblad, and using the 50 - 110 mm is still very heavy.  If I don't need to move around too much, I mount the camera on a tripod and play with the zoom for the right cropping.  The lens is absolutely fantastic.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 01:06:47 am »

I own the HC 35, 50, 80 (kit lens), 100, and 50-110, 300, and 1.7x Converter. The 50-110 is a magnificent piece of glass. The 50 was the last lens I purchased because the 50-110 got very tiresome handheld. You will not go wrong purchasing the HC 35, 50, and 100. If you think you need a 50-110 later on, buy mine.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 01:21:13 am »

Can anyone comment on the close focus ability of this lens compared to the primes

can a face fill the frame (not a head)

How is the AF compared to the 80 in dull situations

Does it work with the little macro ring

I am personally after a 50 but considering this lens as a 'client pleaser' instead

I think it could be liberating to just use one lens ever and concentrate on the images

For portraits I could live entirely in that range

Do users feel that it speeds up their work and stops them missing images while lens juggling

or do you just end up going for a prime anyway and doing even more juggling with an even heavier bag !



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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 02:01:56 am »

Sam i can try this for you tomorrow if you like. I will say that the zoom lens works well with the Hasselblad extension tubes for close ups.  I have not noticed a huge difference in AF capabilities of the 80 or 100 and zoom but I have not compared closely as I prefer manual focus for most of my shots.

 
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Can anyone comment on the close focus ability of this lens compared to the primes

can a face fill the frame (not a head)

How is the AF compared to the 80 in dull situations

Does it work with the little macro ring

I am personally after a 50 but considering this lens as a 'client pleaser' instead

I think it could be liberating to just use one lens ever and concentrate on the images

For portraits I could live entirely in that range

Do users feel that it speeds up their work and stops them missing images while lens juggling

or do you just end up going for a prime anyway and doing even more juggling with an even heavier bag !
S
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 05:19:09 am »

the 50-110 cannot be filled with a face only
on the H2D39 the long side of the frame fully focused as close to the
subject as possible is about 35 cm my face is about 24cm from chin to the top of my head.
Marc
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2007, 06:06:31 am »

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the 50-110 cannot be filled with a face only
on the H2D39 the long side of the frame fully focused as close to the
subject as possible is about 35 cm my face is about 24cm from chin to the top of my head.
Marc
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Thanks.

I think this is my core question..

Do users feel that it speeds up their work and stops them missing images while lens juggling

or do you just end up going for a prime anyway and doing even more juggling with an even heavier bag !

S
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2007, 06:53:59 am »

Quote from: Morgan_Moore,Aug 15 2007, 10:06 AM
Thanks.

sorry ... wrong post
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2007, 02:00:31 pm »

I use the zoom in the studio, for family and child portraits mainly. The subjects (and the photographer) are constantly moving and I would miss far too many shots if I used primes for that. Definitely use the user button for focus though.

When I have older, more controllable subjects, then I switch to the 100 with pleasure!

For an hour or two session the zoom is no problem and saves time with the barbells after work.

When I go on location I usually take the zoom and the 28 which cover most things and reduces lens changes (dust).

BTW As far as there being a TS lens in development my rep intimated that a flexbody may be a solution that Hasselblad were considering too...

Martin

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Thanks.

I think this is my core question..

Do users feel that it speeds up their work and stops them missing images while lens juggling

or do you just end up going for a prime anyway and doing even more juggling with an even heavier bag !

S
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