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« on: August 08, 2007, 04:23:21 pm »

Looks like a fine book - and I did rush right out to purchase it from amazon.com as soon as I had read Michael's recommendation.

amazon.com is the shipper, the seller and it's in stock. All good. Paid for expedited international shipping (6-8 days) such was my excitement.

Received an email. The book will ship in two weeks and take approximately two weeks to arrive. Hardly what I paid for.

I called. Apparently the problem is not amazon.com (oh no, never amazon.com). It is the third party seller (I thought they had said they were the seller and had it in stock!) and the third party can't ship for two weeks .. yaddy ya.

Tried chapters.ca. In stock &c ... they cancelled my order, however, without telling me, because the third party seller didn't have stock.

Tried amazon.ca. The book has not been published!

Tried my local book store. Sure they can get it, for list price of 51.99.

So, I give up. Anyone know where you can get Lightroom Adventure for amazon prices in Canada?
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 05:24:45 am »

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Looks like a fine book - and I did rush right out to purchase it from amazon.com as soon as I had read Michael's recommendation.

amazon.com is the shipper, the seller and it's in stock. All good. Paid for expedited international shipping (6-8 days) such was my excitement.

Received an email. The book will ship in two weeks and take approximately two weeks to arrive. Hardly what I paid for.

I called. Apparently the problem is not amazon.com (oh no, never amazon.com). It is the third party seller (I thought they had said they were the seller and had it in stock!) and the third party can't ship for two weeks .. yaddy ya.

Tried chapters.ca. In stock &c ... they cancelled my order, however, without telling me, because the third party seller didn't have stock.

Tried amazon.ca. The book has not been published!

Tried my local book store. Sure they can get it, for list price of 51.99.

So, I give up. Anyone know where you can get Lightroom for amazon prices in Canada?
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Tell them to screw; stay with Photoshoppe CS ***, the goode olde one!

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 08:07:08 am »

I use both Rob - Lr is dandy. PsCs3 is indispensable. Wouldn't mind seeing what the Iceland crew did and what Aaland has to say about 1.1. *sigh*

btw, I'm katemann, who changed her email address and lost her identity on LL.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 08:40:08 am »

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Tell them to screw; stay with Photoshoppe CS ***, the goode olde one!

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What do you mean stay with Photoshop CS? Its not LR neither is InDesign or GoLive. I don't understand how the comment is, as stated, helpful. Like Tam, I use both. They provide totally different functionality.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 11:56:14 am »

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What do you mean stay with Photoshop CS? Its not LR neither is InDesign or GoLive. I don't understand how the comment is, as stated, helpful. Like Tam, I use both. They provide totally different functionality.
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The point, should it not have ben fairly obvious, is that if a manufacturer makes it difficult to obtain a product, then screw him and use something that is available when you want it.

Much is made of new products and the time lag before they become available; in my humble, it´s just a cynical ´make them salivate before they can buy it´ game which I have usually refused to play. Frankly, I see the compulsion for the new as a rather sad comment of life; it used to be the ´55 then the ´56 followed by the ´57 Ford, Buick or whatever you choose to mention and God help your standing if you fell behind - sad that photography is just as dependent on the opinions of others.

I doubt that improvements are so essential or, as a matter of fact, real; in the end, it´s just another way of doing the same damn thing, much as can be said about digital cameras, come to think of it. I managed to make reasonably good pictures on film and I would lie if I said digital capture had made my shots any better; in fact, as far as B/W goes, I still prefer film. Digital might well be quicker, but better?

And no, I´m not seeking to start that hoary old debate yet again!

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 12:26:37 pm »

Look, the book's new, stuff happens, stock takes time to seep through all the channels, ship dates slip. So chill out, enjoy the sunshine, don't get on your hind legs to pontificate about irrelevancies, and work on the clarity of how you express yourself.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 12:32:10 pm »

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The point, should it not have ben fairly obvious, is that if a manufacturer makes it difficult to obtain a product, then screw him and use something that is available when you want it.

Fine, get another book product for Lightroom but give up Lightroom for Photoshop is a comment that makes no sense to me.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 12:48:02 pm »

John Beardy, I was simply asking if anyone knew where I could buy the damned book at the advertised price in Canada. *I* was not giving up photography over it.

I will probably survive without the book. Lightroom is delightful. Ps is delightful. I have gigs of photos to develop. Life is good.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 12:53:48 pm »

Tam, the latter part of that comment was directed at Rob - I should work at my own clarity of expression. As I said, stuff happens and you're obviously being pissed around by Canadian bookstores, so just enjoy the sunshine and in a few weeks' time try again to buy the book.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 12:55:52 pm »

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I will probably survive without the book. Lightroom is delightful. Ps is delightful. I have gigs of photos to develop. Life is good.
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You might also want to try Martin Evening's book on Lightroom. And Michael and Jeff's Lightroom Journal is the steal of the century. Highly recommended.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 01:07:43 pm »

Points noted and taken, dd and jb. I did try to purchase Martin's book before it was published. amazon.com (US site) had it and didn't have it and ... it was the usual feast of foolishness.

Perhaps I should try to get it now. amazon.com is offering the Aaland and the Evening tomes for 50 odd dollars US. I wonder how they could mess up that order!

I have Michael and Jeff's Lr videos and am presently plowing through From Camera to Print. Excellent. Delighted &c.

thanks for your responses.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 05:14:57 pm »

I received my copy today from Amazon..its a very nice book.  I ordered when I saw the post ..no delay.   Isn t there another Lightroom Book by the same author that was just delayed .
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2007, 05:41:27 pm »

I guess we aren't all special! (just joking)

I ordered as soon as I saw the post, which is, really quick. Perhaps I should have just ignored their email saying that it would take a month. drat anyway.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2007, 12:46:21 pm »

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The point, should it not have ben fairly obvious, is that if a manufacturer makes it difficult to obtain a product, then screw him and use something that is available when you want it.
This is weird. We're talking about a book about Lightroom, not about Lightroom itself!!! I don't understand the need to bash Lightroom just because someone's book is hard to find???
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2007, 01:57:46 pm »

Mort, I don't think anyone is bashing Lr.

I ordered the book again, from amazon.com. Their email said that they would ship on the 12th and it would arrive on the 24th (hardly expedited, but hell).

I think they make it up. Let's see what happens. I am really enthusiastic about getting this particular book, actually. Aaland rocks. Iceland is lovely beyond words.
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2007, 09:26:34 am »

Yes, my understanding of this thread is that it started with a complaint about availability of Mikkel Aaland's book on Lightroom, not the computer program.

I ordered it in late July, soon after received a notice from Amazon.com that availability was delayed, and am now pleased to report the good news that I received a "shipped" confirmation from Amazon.com yesterday. So it is now really in-stock and shipping.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2007, 08:30:25 am »

Shipped confirmation this morning from amazon.com.

The original thread was about my frustration with the various online methods of obtaining the book. I was simply asking whether anyone had a source that worked.

The "expedited international shipping" of 6-8 days is estimated to take 16 days. I hope they do better than that.

Oh well, I am still very much looking forward to receiving the book!
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2007, 12:04:05 pm »

Wonderful book. It arrived this morning.

amazon.com is odd. They do what they do, rather than what they say. It's the new retail paradigm, so I guess we have to get used to it.

Beautiful book.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2007, 12:11:12 pm »

Nice to see you got two-day delivery from time of shipping. Here in Canda, ordering from the US site (where the books are often available sooner and cheaper) we are not so lucky. The packages need to cross the border. The Canada:US border is becoming more and more of a clogged-up mess on both sides in all respects. Neither country is devoting enough resouces to assure both enhanced security and commercial efficiency at the same time.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2007, 12:57:33 pm »

However, Mark, I am in Canada, and I ordered the book on the 9th, paid for expedited international shipping (6-8 days), and received in 4 business days. I also ordered The World Without Usa few days previously and received it in 8 days.

My problem was that amazon offered 6-8 days shipping for an in stock item and then said that it would ship in two weeks and take a further two weeks to arrive. All of their information was incorrect.

I do take your point about international availability of items ... however, as a former retail store owner, who was partly driven out of business by internet competition, I heartily support the notion that everything on the planet should not be available to anyone with a computer and a credit card at retail cost price. This for two reasons - it is unhealthy for any local economy when all the retail money is sent elsewhere, especially to another country altogether, and the notion of selling goods for less than it costs any bricks and mortar store is not viable in the long term. (unless you wish to reduce all local retail to large corps like Walmars)

That being said, I chose to purchase the book online because it was not apparently published in Canada, according to amazon.ca. My local Chapters store offered to order the book for me for 4$ more than the list price.

This thread has now strayed entirely from anything photographic and I will let it sink into oblivion at this point. Thanks for all the replies.

Tam, who is really katemann
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