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« on: July 11, 2007, 10:48:25 am »

Has anyone upgraded a P30 to P30+ ?

Any comments?
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 01:53:56 am »

Ok, this is my opinion.


I received the P30 on loan to get the P30+.  I am on location for a while and I don't have pics to post.  I think that I have them at my office...Anyway, if I still do I will post them in a week or so.  But what I did on the day I had both backs was to shoot a dappled light scene on my porch with a MacBeth Color Checker card on a good quality tripod with a cable release and mirror lockup.  I wanted to see the difference...I did this VS my canon 5d as well.  I shot all cameras except the P30 at 1600 all the way down to 100.  The P30 doesn't give you the 1600 option.  I still love my 5d but man...not really a comparison in resolution.  It did a pretty good job on color as well as great on noise.  Anything over 100 iso on the P30 sucks.  What ever, let me have it....It does.  at 200 you start to see weird color patterns.  I have seen this in jeans or darker fabrics.  The P30+ handled the increased iso great.  With the canon I saw pleasing grain as I increased the iso, the P cameras have more of a noise to them...not really a pleasing grain structure.  Again, my thoughts.  Looking at the color checker it the P cameras produced better colors vs the canon but again the P30+ blew away the colors or the consistency of the color boxes especially at 200-400 iso.  Honestly I would run not walk to get rid of my P30.  I am not totally happy with my P30+  I kinda hate C1 and I would love to be using some other product besides raw developer...Maybe lightroom in a month or so when the update it for the P30+ files.  

I honestly wouldn't shoot the P30+ back for a job over 400 iso..

Also, what's up this CA?  No sharpness, 100% crop of a 16-bit tiff,  A-1998 converted to srgb for the web.  Jpeg wuality 12.  This was with Hc 50mm lens f7.1 1/500s iso 100.  Large raw file.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2007, 07:17:39 am »

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 12:30:50 pm »

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Is the crop the centre or edge of the file?
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 12:39:55 pm »

Ordered my P30+ earlier this year.  Took delivery of the loaner end of May and am waiting for the Plus.  I too don't like C1 and decided (for now) to continue to use PS3.

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2007, 03:10:47 pm »

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Ordered my P30+ earlier this year.  Took delivery of the loaner end of May and am waiting for the Plus.  I too don't like C1 and decided (for now) to continue to use PS3.

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Center of the file.

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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 11:38:40 am »

Sorry that this took me so long.

I did a simple test.  The cameras are from LEFT to Right.  Canon 5D, P30+, P30(on right most)  Camera was H2 w/80mm HC lens.  Canon was 24-70 2.8.  I think that I shot it at f 5.6.

I did a click balance on the second grey box, no sharpening.  I hope that this helps someone.

I no longer have the P30 by the way.


Ken

Files are Iso 200, 400, 800 from left to right.

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 12:19:52 pm »

I ordered my 30+ too, shooting with the P30 currently. I shoot mostly
at 400 & 800 with no problems, lifestyle images. When I process
they look nothing like your test Ken. I'm looking forward to
getting my 30+, but I am very, very happy with the P30 at 400
or 800.

~ cole


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Sorry that this took me so long.

I did a simple test.  The cameras are from LEFT to Right.  Canon 5D, P30+, P30(on right most)  Camera was H2 w/80mm HC lens.  Canon was 24-70 2.8.  I think that I shot it at f 5.6.

I did a click balance on the second grey box, no sharpening.  I hope that this helps someone.

I no longer have the P30 by the way.
Ken

Files are Iso 200, 400, 800 from left to right.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 02:24:14 pm »

love my P30....i am torn about upgrading...the P30 is amazing, my workflow with LR is great (shooting tethered through C1 is a pain, but.....)....i would have to pay to upgrade and i am just not sure....800 is plenty, i love the grain, yes of course 1600 would be even better, but.....i just think at this point i might wait, save my money and upgrade to p45+....the main reason i haven't upgraded  is that i can't work with Lr and that the P30 just works great!

of course michael's opinion about the extra DR is very tempting......i think the color/magenta issues i am reading about would not be an issue....either way, without LR, it is hard to even think about upgrading...
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 11:13:26 pm »

When I process
they look nothing like your test Ken. I'm looking forward to
getting my 30+, but I am very, very happy with the P30 at 400
or 800.


Dear Cole,

How do you process?  I have been Using C1Pro, no sharpening and very little Noise and Banding Suppression.

Ken
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