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« on: May 06, 2007, 04:04:47 AM »

This is my first post to this forum which I recently joined.

I just purchased the NEC 2690 Spectra View monitor.  It should arrive here in California within the month of May, according to NEC.  Do you have any tips on calibrating the monitor?  I have experience doing so with my 17" Nec.  I use the the Eye-One which also profiles my printers, the Epson 4000 and the Epson R800.

After reading some of your forum articles about the 2690, it seems that there are lots of problems and confusion pertaining to the proper calibration of this monitor.  Do you find that to be true?  The calibration of my current monitor is rather simple and straight forward even when using the advanced mode.  Do you have any tips for excellent calibration of this new 2690?  Am I reading too much into the problems mentioned in your earlier NEC 2690 discussions.    

Thanks for reading all this, and "Thank You" in advance for your replies.    
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2007, 08:20:01 AM »

Certainly my experience was much easier than my previous set up.  You have to make a judgement on how bright you want it (intensity) most of the generic options are too bright.  I like mine really dark, but  try starting at around 100 cd/m^2.  Set gamma 2.2, otherwise everything is straight forward.  BTW, I don't think you can rename the profile when it's created.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2007, 08:32:06 AM »

Another thing worth knowing is that, at least if it's like my 2090, ColorComp is turned off by default, and can only be turned on via the OSM.

I calibrate my 2090 to D65, 2.2, 95cd/mē for a dim room.

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2007, 09:07:24 AM »

We bought the Spectraview download which makes calibrating the look-up tables in the monitor and profiling the monitor (creating the ICC profiles and placing them in your computer) very quick and easy.  There is an excellent manual which is part of the download that explains each step in the process.  You can make it as automatic as you desire.  

Once you're set up for a given light condition, rerunning with that setup is quickly done.  The settings we use for subdued D50 lighting are D65, 100 cd/m2, 1.8 gamma.

Our experience with the display has been very positive.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2007, 09:34:05 AM »

Fred just curious, why 1.8 not 2.2?

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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 04:56:10 PM »

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Fred just curious, why 1.8 not 2.2?

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Nill, Spectraview makes suggestions for initial print, broadcast, monitor, Dicom and Cinema settings.  They suggest D50, 1.8 as the proofing standard for proofing color transparencies or press output.  Of course, in Color Management, Fraser et. al. suggest D65, 2.2 is a better standard for modern video cards.  D65 does provide a better match for us between the display and prints.  A 2.2 gamma may also be an improvement, but my testing isn't there yet with the papers we are using on new printers to know whether the change would benefit us.  To quote Bruce Fraser, "...if you've been happily calibrating your monitor to D50, to gamma 1.8 or to both, don't feel you have to change it just because we say so -- as long as you have an accurate monitor profile, the differences between the various calibration aim points are pretty darn subtle."

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 05:08:48 PM »

Thanks Fred.  Please keep us posted as your testing progresses.

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 02:28:40 AM »

Regarding the calibration,
I bought a 2690wuxi non SV due to the huge difference in price. Basically it's the same monitor but SV is hand picked up. However, mine has no defect pixel & the uniformity is quite good.
I calibrate it with a eye-one pro spectrophotometre. The iOne is well recognised by the spectraview profiler 4.1.2 that you can download on the european site but it won't let you calibrate the monitor LUT. The spectraview II (USA) that can be purchased on www.nm-select.com is supposed to work with the non SV version of the 2690 for hardware calibration, altough, being European-Belgian resident, I can't purchase the software online !!!.  So i'm kind of stuck with a marvellous monitor but without hardware calibration so far.  
But what I can say is that with a conventionnal soft calibration (spectraview profiler 4.1.2), 130cd/mē, D65, 2.2 the print (Canon IPF5000, Ilford smooth pearl with iOne Pro home made profiles), the monitor/print match is quite perfect...

Anyone can tell me wether or not I can buy a hood for the non Spectraview models as separate accessory ? If yes where ? eventually will the lacie hood attach on the NEC ? (it's the same monitor)
Txs
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2007, 11:35:39 PM »

My NEC LCD2690WUXI-BK-SV arrived today from CDW. I calibrated using the default SV II settings, and was not real happy. After reviewing this thread I used D65, 2.2, 120cd/mē for use in a rather dim room and am now extremely happy.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2007, 07:46:15 AM »

You might (or might not) find you want to go dimmer still.  I'm down to 95 cd/mē on my 2090uxi.

I haven't seen the hood available anywhere in the US.

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