Ahhh, exactly what I was looking for...Thanks....and one more question: how does 800iso look like...beyond usable...good?...lovely?...perfect?...
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very useable for 800....i always liked the canon 3200 "look" where the noise looks very grain like....there is definitely noise but it looks very much like film grain....so i actually prefer the 800 (on the P30) to the 400....the 400 is not clean enough to be used for clean shots and the 800 almost has a tri-x look to it.....i never use any noise remover, i feel they always just smudge away the grain and it never looks right to me....i would rather have hard grain then watercolors....
not sure if this helps, it is very hard to judge this......i prefer the P30 at 800 to the canons, i also liked the P20 at 400 better....the noise looks just much more like film grain then digital noise....and the canons are very good, the P30 is just better....
so to answer your question: it looks lovely....because it is definitely there, but it looks like it belongs there, just like with any good old grainy B&W film......
