awful hahnemuhle prints w/ epson 2400

[a_krause]

Hi there


I am on a g4 powerbook with a 23 inch apple cinema display and calibrate with an pantone eye-one display2. I am trying to make prints with the hahnemuhle photo rag duo 196gsm and all my prints are coming out super magenta. I am using the profile from Hans site and while i've heard they arent the best, i heard they were OK. I have tried everything from changing the paper from velvet fine art, to water color and have tried different rendering intents. but still all my prints are coming out super magenta, and yes i am soft proofing. any ideas or suggestions?

[nemophoto]

A couple questions:

Are you printing directly from Photoshop?

Do you have all printer driver color correction/managment turned off?

Are your images RGB (rather than CMYK)?

Often color problems result from conflicting color management between drivers and program.

[francois]

I second nemophoto's suggestions. A strong magenta cast is often the result of double color management (ex: in Photoshop and in the printer driver).

[a_krause]

Thanks for getting back to me. I use print preview and i have "let photoshop determine colors" and then i select the profile I've been softproofing in. then I click Print and in that dailogue box I turn off the color management option so there is none. am i missing something else?

[francois]

Thanks for getting back to me. I use print preview and i have "let photoshop determine colors" and then i select the profile I've been softproofing in. then I click Print and in that dailogue box I turn off the color management option so there is none. am i missing something else?
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No, you're not missing anything!

Are you using a Mac? There's a known problem with print presets and color management.

What happens when you print using "let printer handle color management" (ie without your custom printer profile)?

[Marty C]

Adam:
 You say you are softproofing, but then you say your letting PS handle the color. Try this. Use no color management in the printer window and select softProof.
The way I interrpert this you are double profling by letting PS manage the color, because you have already selected the profile in PS when you went to softproof.

[a_krause]

hmmm. now i am just super confused. here is a screen shot of all my settings. http://www.adamkrausephoto.com/cm.jpg

please let me know if something is jumping out at you.

thanks
adam

[rdonson]

Are you following print workflow #2?  Computer-Darkroom

Soft proofing.

What printer are you using?  Have you run a check to make sure no nozzles are clogged?

[dealy663]

hmmm. now i am just super confused. here is a screen shot of all my settings. http://www.adamkrausephoto.com/cm.jpg

please let me know if something is jumping out at you.

thanks
adam
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When I print w/softproofing I do the following:
 Change the color mgmt print option from Document to Proof.
 Set color handling to no color mgmt
 set proof setup preset to current custom setup.

Of course all that is after selecting the proper print profile in the customize proof condition dialog.

Derek

[mcnally]

Go to John Caponigro's website, http://www.johnpaulcaponigro.com/lib/downloads/index.php#, hit techniques and go to softproofing. This is a very simple, but successful method to softproof. Mary Pat McNally

[francois]

hmmm. now i am just super confused. here is a screen shot of all my settings. http://www.adamkrausephoto.com/cm.jpg

please let me know if something is jumping out at you.

thanks
adam
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Adam,
One thing that I'd like to see is a screenshot of the Summary tab in the print window (like in your third screenshot but instead of Color Management, choose Summary). Look below, I've put a screenshot of mine. Mcnally and Dealy663 suggestions are also excellent.

[a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1460]Print settings screenshot[/url]

[pss]

Hi there
I am on a g4 powerbook with a 23 inch apple cinema display and calibrate with an pantone eye-one display2. I am trying to make prints with the hahnemuhle photo rag duo 196gsm and all my prints are coming out super magenta. I am using the profile from Hans site and while i've heard they arent the best, i heard they were OK. I have tried everything from changing the paper from velvet fine art, to water color and have tried different rendering intents. but still all my prints are coming out super magenta, and yes i am soft proofing. any ideas or suggestions?
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the canned profiles on the hahne website are not the best, but they are ok, you should not get any major colorcasts or problems....

make sure the head is clean....

make sure: your file (in PS) has a adobe 1998/pro/srgb profile....your monitor set-up has your calibrated profile chosen

you select PS to handle the color in the printsetup, choose the hahne profile.....turn colormanagement off in the print dialog (you got this part right, from what i can tell from your post...)

i can only imagine that you are working in some weird colorspace/with some weird custom profile to begin with......

try a different paper/profile and see if the problem is the same....


most of the time it is the easy solutions, because you just miss one step....

also: i just had a custom profile go bad....yes, don't ask me how and why, but it somehow got currupted...all my prints with this profile came out 2 stops too dark.....drove me nuts....but retracing my steps i found out that it was the profile and not my setup.....good luck


softproofing never really works for me.....to me, no matter how good your monitor is, the difference between looking at an image backlit (monitor) and an image on a piece of paper is always considerable....i work on a eizo and there is a difference.....just my opinion....