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« on: March 30, 2007, 12:51:21 PM »

I want to be able to back up about 1TB of data and also be able to access image files when I'm on the road via my laptop via FTP or whatever.

Any suggestions?

Would something like this be appropriate?

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10645
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2007, 12:06:54 PM »

Check out PhotoShelter. I think they are the answer to your problem!

Below is a message I posted a few days ago in the Landscape Forum. Although you are not inquiring about prints per se, they have a host of other services, one of which allows you to store 1 TB of data on their site.

Are you sure you want to market your prints by selling at Craft Fairs? If that is not your ultimate goal, there is another option available for marketing your prints that would be much more affordable to you. Do you have your own Website? If so, check out http://www.photoshelter.com. For a nominal fee, you can upload and store your images on their site. With the seamless customization option, you can make it appear as if the images are on your site. You can offer your images as fine art prints and/or license them as either Rights-Managed or Royalty Free stock images. When you set up a print profile, you set your own price and your customers can order with or without your involvement and the prints will be shipped directly to them. They offer other options as well for marketing prints. There are far too many benefits to using PhotoShelter for me to mention in this post. I highly recommend that you check them out, unless you are set on only selling at Craft Fairs and/or you don't have a Website and don't plan on having one.

You can check out my galleries at http://www.sherrimeyer.com. If you have any questions, you can e-mail me at [email protected].

Hope this helps,
Sherri
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2007, 06:02:49 PM »

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Check out PhotoShelter. I think they are the answer to your problem!

Below is a message I posted a few days ago in the Landscape Forum. Although you are not inquiring about prints per se, they have a host of other services, one of which allows you to store 1 TB of data on their site.


Hope this helps,
Sherri
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Hi Sherry,

This is a cool site/service but wow, are they expensive!  $400 per month for 1 TB?
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 09:50:37 AM »

Do you really need that much storage? Why not start with 100GB for $49.99/mo. and add more as you need it? Maybe you could get by with 10 or 20 GB. What are your goals?

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 11:47:37 AM »

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I want to be able to back up about 1TB of data and also be able to access image files when I'm on the road via my laptop via FTP or whatever.

Any suggestions?

Would something like this be appropriate?

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10645
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The Lacie weighs over 20 pounds and costs over $700US.  

You can get a 500 gig HD that will weigh less than 3 pounds and cost about $150.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 02:29:18 PM »

Just as any fyi Photoshelter has a special pricing deals both for 500 GB and 1 TB. I think the pricing is 600 and 1000 yearly respectively. Expensive true, but cheaper then 400.00 per month.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 02:58:52 PM »

Hmmm... how long would it take to download 1TB of data on a broadband connection?  Worse yet, how long to upload it?

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2007, 05:55:41 PM »

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Do you really need that much storage? Why not start with 100GB for $49.99/mo. and add more as you need it? Maybe you could get by with 10 or 20 GB. What are your goals?

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My goal is to be able to provide small-scale post-production services from the road for clients.  For example: I'm out of town and a client needs one or two certain files ASAP.  I need to be able to access those RAW files from my data base, load the approapriate file, post-produce it, and ftp to the client.  As you can see, 20 GB would not cut it as I have no idea what files they might need from 800 GB of data.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2007, 05:57:58 PM »

Also, I've been hearing on this board that  a lot of people aren't too happy with Lacie (and Maxtor) when it comes to reliablilty....

Seems several are recommending this:

https://www.g-technology.com/index.cfm

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The Lacie weighs over 20 pounds and costs over $700US. 

You can get a 500 gig HD that will weigh less than 3 pounds and cost about $150.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2007, 06:06:13 PM »

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My goal is to be able to provide small-scale post-production services from the road for clients.  For example: I'm out of town and a client needs one or two certain files ASAP.  I need to be able to access those RAW files from my data base, load the approapriate file, post-produce it, and ftp to the client.  As you can see, 20 GB would not cut it as I have no idea what files they might need from 800 GB of data.
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Sounds to me like you need some sort of remote log-in capability to your own system, independent of your backup needs.  IOW, probably two separate questions, with two separate answers.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2007, 09:28:19 AM »

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Just as any fyi Photoshelter has a special pricing deals both for 500 GB and 1 TB. I think the pricing is 600 and 1000 yearly respectively. Expensive true, but cheaper then 400.00 per month.
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Yes, Standard and Pro members can take advantage of 1TB of storage for $1000/yr. A Standard membership is $29.99/mo. and a Pro membership is $49.99/mo.  If you became a Standard member, that would reduce your monthly fee from $400.00 to about $113.00.  

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 04:29:14 PM »

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I want to be able to back up about 1TB of data and also be able to access image files when I'm on the road via my laptop via FTP or whatever.

Any suggestions?

Would something like this be appropriate?

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10645
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Most of the NAS type systems are extremely slow. It will take hours to copy files... hours... I own that exact drive and it's pretty good system since it works with mac but very slow. Firewire drives are unreliable but very cheap compared to $4800 storage hotel per year.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2007, 04:31:34 PM »

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Yes, Standard and Pro members can take advantage of 1TB of storage for $1000/yr. A Standard membership is $29.99/mo. and a Pro membership is $49.99/mo.  If you became a Standard member, that would reduce your monthly fee from $400.00 to about $113.00. 

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Sherri Meyer
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But can you trust them? What if they go belly up one day? Where do you go to collect your data?

They say don't put all your eggs in one basket, especially if someone else is carrying them...
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2007, 11:46:51 PM »

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But can you trust them? What if they go belly up one day? Where do you go to collect your data?

They say don't put all your eggs in one basket, especially if someone else is carrying them...
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I'm not clear on why you just don't carry your data with you.

Pack a couple of big external hard drives.   A few hundred bucks and you are independent of someone else's system and access time.

NewEgg's got 500 gig HDs for $130 each.  Enclosures cost $20-25.  Three hundred bucks and you're done.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 09:48:23 PM »

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I'm not clear on why you just don't carry your data with you.

Pack a couple of big external hard drives.   A few hundred bucks and you are independent of someone else's system and access time.

NewEgg's got 500 gig HDs for $130 each.  Enclosures cost $20-25.  Three hundred bucks and you're done.
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How about an assisitant that has a backup drive at his studio in your town. When a client calls
just email your assistant & have them send the file(s). Simple, no big drive to take
on location, no slow costly download service + your have a backup at another location.
Just pay the assistant a fee when you need to send a file.

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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2007, 12:13:20 AM »

Steve,

Look into Weibetech and Granite Digital for solutions.  There are no better companies for digital products.  

Don't buy 1TB drives as they are two 500GB stripped together and waiting for failure!  

You can get a four bay housing with four 750's, buy yourself a DriveDock and some extra 750's and carry them in a little Pelican case or leave them with an assistant when you are out of town.  You can get SoftRaid as well which is amazing.  Mirrors in the background once set up, the best solution I have found.  You can set up a SilverSata or RT5 to be accessible through the internet connected to your broadband connection at your office.  Password protected an everything.

Best of luck and welcome to the new HD Hell you are about to enter.  Always have a few back ups and get into SATA drives and stay away from PATA/IDE drives.



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How about an assisitant that has a backup drive at his studio in your town. When a client calls
just email your assistant & have them send the file(s). Simple, no big drive to take
on location, no slow costly download service + your have a backup at another location.
Just pay the assistant a fee when you need to send a file.
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2007, 06:08:38 AM »

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Don't buy 1TB drives as they are two 500GB stripped together and waiting for failure! 
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Hitachi does now a native 1TB drive that seems to perform beautifully by the way.

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2007, 08:50:49 PM »

Western Digital Makes a remote access drive. It is called "My Book World" the 1TB is around
$384.00 us. I think this is the root I will be going.

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail...ched%20Storage)
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2007, 02:58:48 PM »

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The Lacie weighs over 20 pounds and costs over $700US. 

You can get a 500 gig HD that will weigh less than 3 pounds and cost about $150.
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I just witnessed my second Lacie Hard Drive Crash.  I will never depend on this brand again.  The first time lost information The second I had other backups

Arthur Morris and others have had the same experience.  FYI

From BIRDS AS ART:
 
We are currently using three sets two LaCie External Hard drives.  One set stays connected to our main office computer and the other two sets are rotated as back-ups.  The set of two that are connected to our computer have performed perfectly since we purchased them about 9 months ago.  The four back-up units, however, have failed repeatedly something like seven times.  Either they fail to power up after being re-connected or the hard drive crashes.  We just had one repaired and the drive crashed the first time that we began to copy files to it...  While the smaller LaCie drives have a great reputation for durability and performance, the 500 gb drives are to be avoided at all costs.  If anyone can shed any light on this unfortunate situation, please e-mail us at [email protected].
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2007, 03:56:46 PM »

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Sounds to me like you need some sort of remote log-in capability to your own system, independent of your backup needs.  IOW, probably two separate questions, with two separate answers.

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Like Nill suggests, you could have your assets on a server in your studio or office connected to the net (and behind a firewall).  The firewall can have a port opened to allow you to access your server's contents via Apple Remote Desktop.  Then no matter where you are, you can log in and see all of your files sitting in your office without paying any monthly fees.  Apple Remote Desktop costs $300 and is very handy for managing servers, rip machines, etc inside of your office (so you don't have to have a monitor for each). Of course this all depends on if you work with Macs in the first place.
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