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mtselman

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« on: March 19, 2007, 11:49:20 PM »

As I was trying to take a photo of a hat store display through the closed window in a hasidic jewish neighborhood of Brooklyn, a young orthodox suddenly appeared in the viewfinder as he walked by on a street behind me. I instantly snapped the photo and when I got home, I discovered multiple reflections coming off the mirrors and front glass of the store. There is a lot in this image that I like, but at the same time I'm afraid it's a bit too much cluttered with glares and reflections.
What do you feel? Good as is? Total crap? Salvageable through some PS work?

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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 03:55:53 AM »

Doesn't do much for me, but you asked!

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 04:30:30 AM »

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As I was trying to take a photo of a hat store display through the closed window in a hasidic jewish neighborhood of Brooklyn, a young orthodox suddenly appeared in the viewfinder as he walked by on a street behind me. I instantly snapped the photo and when I got home, I discovered multiple reflections coming off the mirrors and front glass of the store. There is a lot in this image that I like, but at the same time I'm afraid it's a bit too much cluttered with glares and reflections.
What do you feel? Good as is? Total crap? Salvageable through some PS work?
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Yes, there are too many things here. However I find the multiple reflections of the man looking at the window (maybe looking at you) quite interesting. What about bringing out those reflections while taming a bit the large glare on the window?

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 07:41:41 AM »

Personally, although it is busy, I find the complexity and layering of the reflections rather intriguing. Having only been to NY once in my life, my overwhelming memories are of its incredibly busy and noisy street life - which I think this captures rather well. So, definitely worth a bit of work, I think.

(and I suspect a larger print would be much more visually comprehensible than a web-res version, anyway.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 08:43:52 AM »

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Yes, there are too many things here. However I find the multiple reflections of the man looking at the window (maybe looking at you) quite interesting. What about bringing out those reflections while taming a bit the large glare on the window?
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Kal,
Thank you for giving it a try! How did you manage to remove quite a bit of the reflections without affecting the main content too much? I would love to try that on the original image.

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 09:31:20 AM »

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Thank you for giving it a try! How did you manage to remove quite a bit of the reflections without affecting the main content too much? I would love to try that on the original image.

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I would try for something between your original and Kal's version. To my eye Kal's is a bit harsh, too contrasty.

When I first looked at the original, I saw first the direct view of the face outside. Only a bit later did I discover the reflected views. The fact that they don't jump out at you adds to the sense of mystery. I like pictures that invite me to do a little work to see what's there, and this does. It feels like an image that has many layers of meaning, and future viewings will reveal more of them.

Fine image! I would try "taming a bit the large glare on the window", as Kal says, but leave the multiple reflections as they are.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 12:43:11 PM »

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I would try for something between your original and Kal's version. To my eye Kal's is a bit harsh, too contrasty.

When I first looked at the original, I saw first the direct view of the face outside. Only a bit later did I discover the reflected views. The fact that they don't jump out at you adds to the sense of mystery. I like pictures that invite me to do a little work to see what's there, and this does. It feels like an image that has many layers of meaning, and future viewings will reveal more of them.

Fine image! I would try "taming a bit the large glare on the window", as Kal says, but leave the multiple reflections as they are.
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Well, yes I boosted contrast quite a lot, mainly in the left part of the image. For the reflections in the middle, some dodging&burning did the trick.

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2007, 05:26:18 PM »

Yes, I like Kal's better.  Still busy, but more refined...

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 01:04:27 AM »

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I would try for something between your original and Kal's version. To my eye Kal's is a bit harsh, too contrasty.

When I first looked at the original, I saw first the direct view of the face outside. Only a bit later did I discover the reflected views. The fact that they don't jump out at you adds to the sense of mystery. I like pictures that invite me to do a little work to see what's there, and this does. It feels like an image that has many layers of meaning, and future viewings will reveal more of them.

Fine image! I would try "taming a bit the large glare on the window", as Kal says, but leave the multiple reflections as they are.
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Eric, Kal, thanks for suggestions.
Here is my attempt at "taming the glares" while not pushing the contrast up too much.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2007, 09:49:10 AM »

I agree with the others. It is hard for me to zero in on the main point of the pic. Do you live nearby? Could you recreate this scene? If so, why not take multiple shots to insure that you get what you are after. Also, rather than depending on PhotoShop to fix it, try to get it right in the camera first. Then, you can always tweak later if you want/need to.

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