Topic: Rollei 6008AF vs Hy6 (Read 7890 times)

Mort54 · « **on:** February 11, 2007, 12:23:20 am »

Could someone please summarize the main differences between the Rollei 6008AF and the Hy6? They both use the same lenses. They both have autofocus and metering integrated into the body. The Hy6 should be a little lighter, but what else? Are there any compelling reasons to get a Hy6 if you already have a 6008? Or put another way, why not just get a 6008 instead of a Hy6?

Thanks,
Hans.

Mort54 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:16:55 am »

Just a quick follow-up. I've been trying to identify available backs for the 6008 AF. In addition to the Sinar backs and the Phase One P20, it looks like the Hasselblad backs (the CF-22 and the CF-39) will fit the 6008 AF via an adapter plate. Can anyone confirm that Hasselblad backs are useable? I've read elsewhere that the only backs that fit the 6008 AF are the Sinar's and the P20, but no one seems to mention the Hasselblad backs.

Thanks,
Hans.

rethmeier · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:39:22 am »

As far as I know,only the eMotion-22 and eMotion-75 currently will fit the 6008.
And of course the Phase One P20.
I was quoted allmost $3000 AUD for the eMotion-6008 adapter.

Regarding the Hy6.it's designed with digital in mind.
The 6008 has been around for a while now.

Cheers,
Willem.

josayeruk · « **Reply #3 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:54:44 am »

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As far as I know,only the eMotion-22 and eMotion-75 currently will fit the 6008.
And of course the Phase One P20.
I was quoted allmost $3000 AUD for the eMotion-6008 adapter.

Regarding the Hy6.it's designed with digital in mind.
The 6008 has been around for a while now.

Cheers,
Willem.
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Jo S. x

rethmeier · « **Reply #4 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:06:42 am »

I'm very impressed with the Hasselbad adapters!

Didn't know they made one for the 6008 and every other camera under the sun!

Graham Mitchell · « **Reply #5 on:** February 11, 2007, 04:35:39 am »

The Hy6 will integrate with the back. You will get EXIF data and the ISO selection should be seamless. The battery life should be better too with new battery technology and no motor drive.

Wim van Velzen · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2007, 06:15:55 am »

I use a Hasselblad 132c back on my Rollei 6008i- It works fine with the adapter and cable from the body to the back. The 6008 AF can be used without this cable and transfers more info to the back.

The Hy6 will also allow you to rotate the backs, which is great for portraits.

josayeruk · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2007, 08:44:47 am »

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The Hy6 will integrate with the back. You will get EXIF data and the ISO selection should be seamless. The battery life should be better too with new battery technology and no motor drive.
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If you use a imacon / hasselblad back with the 6008 then the same applies.

You can select shutter and aperture from Flexcolor as well as ISO settings.

EXIF data is written into the raw file. (Shutter / Aperture)

My friend in the north of England has been using one with great success.

Jo S.x

Mort54 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2007, 11:16:12 am »

Thanks everyone. Here is my summary of what I think I read in the various replies, as well as a few more tidbits I've gleaned from reading other threads and datasheets:

Hasselblad backs can indeed be used with the 6008AF (using a relatively expensive adapter) without a cable and include EXIF information from the body (i.e. shutter speed and aperture) in the RAW file.

Sinar backs and the P20 back can be used with the 6008AF but require a cable between the body and the back, and don't include full EXIF from the body in the RAW file.

The Hy6 will be compatible with Sinar and Leaf backs and will be fully integrated with these backs, so full EXIF information will be included in the RAW files. It's still not clear whether Phase backs will be available for Hy6 (I hope they will be), or if the Hasselblad backs will be available via an adapter (again, I hope they will be). Also, if the Phase and Hasselblad backs do become available for the Hy6, it's not clear how integrated they will be, since it's not clear how open Jenoptics will be with the serial protocol between the body and back. There's been a lot of talk on this forum on whether Phase backs will be available for Hy6. It occurs to me that if Phase uses a sync cable like they did with the P20, and doesn't use the serial inferface, then it would be relatively trivial for them to make their backs work with the Hy6, even without Jenoptics support. It wouldn't be an integrated solution, but it would still work. Of course, a fully integrated solution would be preferable.

The 6008AF uses older battery technology. The Hy6 is expected to use newer battery technology which would likely provide more shots per charge.

The Hy6 gets rid of the film wind motor from the body, yielding a smaller and lighter design (I'm not sure this would save battery power however, since the motor wouldn't be used with a digital back). The Hy6 also moves the battery out of the body and into the action grip.

Someone mentioned that the backs can be rotated on the Hy6, but the 6008AF datasheet claims backs can be rotated on it as well.

One other thing I get out of the datasheets is that the action grip is removable on the 6008AF, but I seem to recall reading in another thread that the grip won't be removable on the Hy6 (I guess it can't be removable, since the battery will be in the grip on the Hy6).

If anyone else has any other points of comparison, please chime in.

Thanks again,
Hans.

Wim van Velzen · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2007, 12:02:08 pm »

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Someone mentioned that the backs can be rotated on the Hy6, but the 6008AF datasheet claims backs can be rotated on it as well.

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The Hasselblad/Imacon adapter doesn't allow rotation, may be others do. The back can be unscrewed and screwed back to portrait orientation, but that is not something to do during a shoot. Can be nice for portrait studios though!

pss · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:48:52 pm »

the P20 does not need a cable to connect to the 6008AF.....no exif data is exchanged.....
the batteries on the 6008 last forever with the P20....i am talking 1000 shots....
the sinar backs rotate on the 6008...
the Hy6 is an updated version of the 6008, made for digital (exif info,...)...the handle won't come off like on the 6008...the Hy6 has the controls on the handle....
the lens mount is the same, some film backs are interchangeable...
the hass/imacon backs fit on the 6008 via adapter....

the only real reason to go for hass/imacon backs would be the total integration of the system (lens correction,...)....if you don't like the H1/2/3, there is no real reason to buy an imacon back...test them yourself..i looked at them and i think they provide the lowest quality out of the existing backs....not bad at all, but since all backs are (more or less) the same price, the others provide better files...

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