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« Reply #240 on: February 22, 2007, 07:56:20 pm »

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i think the onliest person who can edit his post and therefore delete it is sheself. so shara:
did you edited and deleted your post, cause i am 100% sure that michael has not done it....
this forums has turned out to be free of any censorship behavor,- and michael is working with phase,- which logic it would have to do that ( further he is in the antarctis till sunday ).
w. rettmeier has sent me the post of shara with email, so in case you want to post it again and erased it inconscient i can sent it to you and you can post it again.
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so: shara... whats going on here?
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« Reply #241 on: February 22, 2007, 08:26:59 pm »

Not only did her post disappear but she disappeared?

thsinar, I think she said that the sinar back had some type of jagged edge?

I wonder if she had any centerfold on the Leaf back? I still have centerfold and now color cast that I did not have with my other leaf back.
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« Reply #242 on: February 22, 2007, 09:17:43 pm »

hi John,

Since this post has been deleted, I won't make any comment on it.

However, I have got this post sent to me offline: still, I don't wish nor can I say something about it, if I dont' know the conditions, the persons who handled the backs, the camera/back settings (same ISO on the backs? if yes, then we have already wrong conditions from the start, without wishing to emphasize on it), the handling and processing of the files, etc ...
Jaggy edges: this happens if one shoots on preview mode. A Low-Res file is then saved (screen Res 72 dpi).

Even when reading "green colour cast", I would say that this can be corrected easily if choosing the right input profile and/or balancing the light with a grey card (was it done?); or "files sharper" is a known fact that "some" are applying a "default USM" in their RAWs (Sinar not and never, purposely and with reasons), etc ....

I prefer here to stay neutral and respect as such what has been done during these tests, without further comments.

Thanks and best regards,
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Not only did her post disappear but she disappeared?

thsinar, I think she said that the sinar back had some type of jagged edge?

I wonder if she had any centerfold on the Leaf back? I still have centerfold and now color cast that I did not have with my other leaf back.
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« Reply #243 on: February 22, 2007, 09:24:12 pm »

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Att: [span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']Laser Meter Users[/span]
Anybody with expirience on [span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']Leica[/span]/[span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']Bosch[/span]/[span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']Hilti [/span]Laser Meters, I would love to
decide soon.

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Danijela,

I have used the leica laser measuring device here in the office.  I use it for measuring buildings and find the leica device works very nicely.  We also just bought some other laser devices, and one has already broken (they are not Bosch, Leica or Hilti, they are some other brand).

Things to keep in mind when using these devices.
1.  They work great inside, in shade or overcast days
2.  They will only measure upto 20 feet or 6.5 meters in direct sunlight, after that the sun interferes with the device.
3.  make sure you set the device to measure from either the front or back, you can choose, just remember.

Aaron Britton
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« Reply #244 on: February 22, 2007, 11:48:00 pm »

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Anybody using » [span style=\'font-size:12pt;line-height:100%\']Arca-Swiss C1 Cube Geared Head [span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']with Arca-Type Flip-Lock Quick Release[/span][/span][span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']?[/span]

Apart from the obvious one `Expensive` All critiques are welcome !!!

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« Reply #245 on: February 23, 2007, 05:43:31 am »

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Not only did her post disappear but she disappeared?

thsinar, I think she said that the sinar back had some type of jagged edge?

I wonder if she had any centerfold on the Leaf back? I still have centerfold and now color cast that I did not have with my other leaf back.
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Do you feel frustrated or do yo take it as part of the work-flow?

Are you thinking of replacing it with Sinar/Hasselblad/Phase?

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« Reply #246 on: February 23, 2007, 05:45:00 am »

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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the info!

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Danijela
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« Reply #247 on: February 23, 2007, 05:49:54 am »

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Danijela,

I have used the leica laser measuring device here in the office.  I use it for measuring buildings and find the leica device works very nicely.  We also just bought some other laser devices, and one has already broken (they are not Bosch, Leica or Hilti, they are some other brand).

Things to keep in mind when using these devices.
1.  They work great inside, in shade or overcast days
2.  They will only measure upto 20 feet or 6.5 meters in direct sunlight, after that the sun interferes with the device.
3.  make sure you set the device to measure from either the front or back, you can choose, just remember.

Aaron Britton
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Hi Aaron,

Did you ever see these Laser Reactive Glasses that help in difficult situations?

Apparently they work fine but I failed to find any info on them.

Thanks for making the effort to reply, I appreciate it.

Regards
Danijela
« Last Edit: February 23, 2007, 09:25:17 am by Danijela D. Karic »
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« Reply #248 on: February 23, 2007, 08:34:36 am »

Anybody using » [span style=\'font-size:12pt;line-height:100%\']LINHOF Multi-Focal Viewfinder on ALPA 12SWA?[/span]

All critiques are welcome !!!

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Danijela
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« Reply #249 on: February 23, 2007, 08:38:00 am »

http://www.fotomancamera.com/accessories_list.asp

They make a rangefinder that can be hotshoe mounted..might be of use.
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« Reply #250 on: February 23, 2007, 09:29:34 am »

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http://www.fotomancamera.com/accessories_list.asp

They make a rangefinder that can be hotshoe mounted..might be of use.
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Hi Marc,

Interesting!

However, I am looking for the model by LINHOF

Thanks for the Link though.

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« Reply #251 on: February 23, 2007, 11:51:48 am »

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Hi Aaron,

Did you ever see these Laser Reactive Glasses that help in difficult situations?

Apparently they work fine but I failed to find any info on them.

Thanks for making the effort to reply, I appreciate it.

Regards
Danijela
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Hi Danijela,

I haven't heard of these glasses, and frankly don't see how they would help.  The problem is not seeing where the laser lands, that is very obvious.  Also, the device is what is doing the measurements not your own eyes.  So, if you can't see the laser, then the device won't either and you will not get a measurement.

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« Reply #252 on: February 23, 2007, 05:59:38 pm »

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Hi Danijela,

I haven't heard of these glasses, and frankly don't see how they would help.
The problem is not seeing where the laser lands, that is very obvious. 
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Using these glasses you are able to practically see the Laser Beam and therefore see exactly where it lands and direct accordingly.  

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Also, the device is what is doing the measurements not your own eyes.  So, if you can't see the laser, then the device won't either and you will not get a measurement.

Aaron Britton
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Frankly, your quote defeats you’re your own point in its self, but I will try to answer it anyway. My eyes are there to better assist & guide the Laser Device, obviously not to measure, hence the idea of having these glasses.

Regards
Danijela
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« Reply #253 on: February 23, 2007, 11:34:30 pm »

[span style=\'font-size:12pt;line-height:100%\']Anybody willing to share some info when traveling Air/etc. with LF Digital system?

Bags, tripods, tips to consider, etc.? would be highly appreciated.
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« Reply #254 on: February 24, 2007, 03:05:13 am »

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[span style=\'font-size:12pt;line-height:100%\']Anybody willing to share some info when traveling Air/etc. with LF Digital system?

Bags, tripods, tips to consider, etc.? would be highly appreciated.
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i have two amazon rimova alu hardcases in maximum allowed size for handbaggage.
using both i can take all my camera equipement with me which i need on locations,- i take all in handluggage which i could not replace, if the normal luggage would not arrive in the right airport ( happened one time to me ).
further i have a big loewe suitcase with wheels which i take for longer or big jobs with me,  i remove here the internal separations and transport a calibrated 19" lacie monitor for hotel-room-editing. i use the loewe suitcase than  on location  for carryiong around all my equipement on location, hopefully my assistant does that  

if i want to travel with little equipement i use one of the rimovas and my laptop bag.

right now at this moment  i am sitting in an airport in faro/portugal beeing logged in the airport internet....
i already have checked in and have  in my hand-luggage:

1 crumpler bag with g4 laptop and three 100gb harddiscs and also one charged spare battery for having something to do meanwhile waiting.

1 rimova box contains today:

1 contax 645 with 4 lenses ( 35/45/80/140)  and mounted e75 back.
1 gottschalt camera with sinar/rodenstock 28/35/60HR lenses and 45mm digital lens
1 e75 back
accessories: 10x10 grey transparent plexi/ 3 batteries for e75 / charger for them / batterie grip for contax / prism + waistlevel finder for contax / sliding back for gottschalt.

the gottschalt becomes 3 centimeters thick, incl. the sliding back,  if i remove the back and the lens and the loupe bellow. put the gottschalt at the bottom of the case, over it fits the contax with one lens attached, i can use in this way the space of one camera for taking two.

my experience is as more you take with you as faster the controls at airports .....
never have had problems with too extensive controls, but usually they check if the camera really works as a camera, so better to have a battery in the back and in the camera to switch it on one time.
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« Reply #255 on: February 24, 2007, 05:15:58 am »

Hi Danijela,

I just read this whole thread, and it has been an interesting 'ride'. I hope you have learned from it, and others too.

I recently bought a Sinar e22 back, and was really drawn to this system because of the adapters. I love the fact that I could put the back on a Rollei 6008 one day, and something like a Hasselblad SWC the next. Not to mention various view camera options, or upcoming bodies like the Hy6. I feel quite free to choose my platform.

By comparison, a friend of mine bought a new P30 in Sweden with Mamiya mount and then wanted to change to a Hass H mount only two months later. He was charged around $4k to swap the mount, and now he is still stuck with one mount.

I shoot people mainly, so I can't be of much help with specialised architectural applications. However, I can add a few comments in reply to some of your posts:

The upcoming Hy6 is not a brand new body. The name is new but it is in effect a Rollei 6008 AF 'D'. It is important to realise that this camera is built on a proven platform and should not be regarded as a higher risk than a Hass H3, for example. For some reason people feel secure in the Hass H platform because many others are using it, but that is very flawed logic (think sheep!) You should also be aware that Hass H has some problems with the camera locking up. You need to remove the battery to reset the camera and continue shooting. You will find various threads on this. Also, there are many reports of the 50-110mm zoom lens falling apart. I am not trying to start a brand-war, but just pointing out that the assumption that Hass H is proven and totally reliable and that the Hy6 is a complete unknown is quite FALSE. The Hy6 will also offer a rotating back (great feature which I already enjoy on the 6008), faster lenses, faster flash sync, and a wider array of lenses and accessories, and of course you can start using the system today with a 6008 body, as I do.

As for the Capture One and Brumbaer tools, you are free to download them both and play with some raw files before buying. Both these tools are very simple to use. I had to email Thierry once about an undocumented feature (revealing hidden menus), but apart from that I felt comfortable about the workflow in one hour. I had been using Capture One Pro for years but the transition was pretty painless.

You are also free to use Brumbaer DNG converter and Lightroom, without using Capture Shop. Using a Macbook Pro I was taking about 5 seconds per raw file to convert to DNG. Pretty quick. Would be a little longer for the e75 files, of course.

It will be interesting to see what Exposure bring to the table. It was scheduled to be released by about now, so I hope it's not far away.

The suggestion by someone in this forum of a quick-release system for the Sinarback was inspired. Changing adapters now is doable in a few minutes but it makes me a little nervous. Perhaps Sinar could think about this, and take an already useful feature (back adaptibility) to the next level. We can then leave the adapters permanently on the camera bodies, and move the back around in seconds.

Good luck with your decision!
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« Reply #256 on: February 24, 2007, 07:47:48 am »

Now you have me thinking, Graham, that I might have been too pragmatic in only asking Sinar, through Thierry, to consider quick-release mount adaptors.  I say pragmatic, since to-date Sinar alone use adaptors at all.

So, Yair for Leaf, and whoever's lurking for PhaseOne: while your respective current designs don't provide for user-changeable, field-changeable mounts, how about incorporating them in new product?


-H.
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« Reply #257 on: February 24, 2007, 08:05:55 am »

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Bags, tripods, tips to consider, etc.? would be highly appreciated.
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I like to travel rather light, so mostly I go with this.

Billingham 306 containing H2D 39  35mm 55-110mm zoom charger, cleaning kit, harddrive
G4 powerbook, manfrotto tripod. Everything handluggage

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« Reply #258 on: February 24, 2007, 08:41:11 am »

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Now you have me thinking, Graham, that I might have been too pragmatic in only asking Sinar, through Thierry, to consider quick-release mount adaptors.  I say pragmatic, since to-date Sinar alone use adaptors at all.

So, Yair fpr Leaf, and whoever's lurking for PhaseOne: while your respective current designs don't provide for user-changeable, field-changeable mounts, how about incorporating them in new product?
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Euh. Not sure who had them first but Imacon has the same adapter plate idea (as well as stuff like 4 and 16 shot, where with Imacon this module can be bought seperately for some backs).

Quick releases would be an enormous asset. I certainly hope Phase as well as Leaf (particularly Leaf) will also come with an adapterplate system.
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« Reply #259 on: February 24, 2007, 09:03:53 am »

For information:

Sinar had the adapter system first and since the begining, but it is true that Imacon has introduced it as well a few years ago (4, if I'm right).

Thierry

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