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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2006, 07:29:05 pm »

willow, like i said, i am simply stating my experiences with the  camera...other people have had similar experiences, others very different...the camera is heavy and the horizontal format makes vertical shooting difficult for me because of the size of the grip...the mirror slap is a known issue, even michael wrote about it in his first test of the H....
i have owned the gx680, and some 690, 670 and 645 fujis, so when hasselblad announced that they would partner with fuji, i was ne of the few people excited, could not wait ot get my hands on one....did not work out the way i thought it would....many people hate the rolleis, i love it...someone asked about people's experiences and i gave mine....
i wish you would answer my question in the post about the P30 (and if your files are cut off on the bottom as well) in LR instead of trying to argue here about who said what and when....
i will try to chose my words more carefully in the future so their meaning is not up to mis-interpretation...
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2006, 07:34:34 pm »

Yes, my P30 pictures are also cut in LR.
And it is sad, because I really liked what I got there.
Hopefully Adobe will fix it soon.

Still wait for the 180  1/30 picture  

I have not tried to handhold H2 with less than 1/125.

But after this I will surely do some test  

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2006, 07:49:26 pm »

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Yes, my P30 pictures are also cut in LR.
And it is sad, because I really liked what I got there.
Hopefully Adobe will fix it soon.


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i know! i was really surprised with the quality of the files....everything is right, if it wasn't for the missing data....i made some comparisons with C1 and the processed files are very good....not sure i would go to C1 every time....
btw: just tried to import files again (first adjusted in C1) and LR did not read the thumbs right this time....it read them just like they were shot, not the adjustemnts, like it had done previously...anyway wrong thread for this....

unfortunately the rollei did not record any info on the shootingdata with the P20, so i have no clue what was shot how and what exposure...
but i am pretty sure i can shoot more steady with the rollei then the mamiya as well, just because of the way it is held....
ever had a twin lens (rollei or mamiya)?..no mirror, held in front of you, looking down...1/15 is very doable.....and acceptable....for me at least...
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2006, 08:05:34 pm »

Nice pictures on your website
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2006, 10:05:34 pm »

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*The camera sometimes loses the connection to bits and pieces (this has not happened lately though, maybe my last firmware update fixed the problem?)
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Same here; ever since I had the firmware updated I've had very few lock ups or problems.
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2006, 11:14:02 pm »

I have had very few lockup problems too so it is not an issue for me.   In regards to ergonomics, I almost also use my hasselblad on a tripod. I have small hands and have no issue. I know the zoom lens is huge but optically it is the best zoom I have ever used on any camera.  Super sharp even wide open.  In regards to mirror slap, it is pretty quick to use the mirror lockup option on the camera and it is almost automatic for me. Some have complained of vibration even with mirror lockup but i have not noticed any problems to date. Mark

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Same here; ever since I had the firmware updated I've had very few lock ups or problems.
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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2006, 06:34:26 am »

I have had few experiences with soft images due to camera shake. With the mirror locked up, I never pay attention to shutter speed unless I need to freeze something in the frame, it just works for me. With the mirror down/operational, I just keep above 1/125 (sometimes let myself go down a 1/3 stop in a pinch.) This is the same for me as when I worked with the V-system.

On another note I find the DOF with a 39 back to be very shallow, even with the wider lenses. This has led to me being much more particular and accurate in my focusing.

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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2006, 10:56:01 am »

A few weeks ago, I did an experiment. I shot with different shutter speeds 1/30 or 1/60 and slower with and without mirror lockup (tripod and fixed object).  I varied the iso so aperture and exposure  remained the same.  What I remember is that I found that at about 1/15th to 1/4th you could see the biggest difference with camera slap with and without mirror lockup.  i should have saved some of those comparisons.  

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I have had few experiences with soft images due to camera shake. With the mirror locked up, I never pay attention to shutter speed unless I need to freeze something in the frame, it just works for me. With the mirror down/operational, I just keep above 1/125 (sometimes let myself go down a 1/3 stop in a pinch.) This is the same for me as when I worked with the V-system.

On another note I find the DOF with a 39 back to be very shallow, even with the wider lenses. This has led to me being much more particular and accurate in my focusing.

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2006, 11:48:36 am »

i am talking about shooting people, so the mirror lock-up is not an option and tripod is in many cases not an option or desired....cannot speak for landscape/architecture work, but i would probably use something with movements if i had enough time for mirror-lock up or tripod....
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« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2006, 12:22:13 pm »

I do not think the H system is optimal for shooting moving people so your point is well taken. ... but I would suggest that many of the MF are not optimal for this kind of shooting.  However, I use a view camera vs H2 for landscapes and macro and the later is so much faster to set up and use.  I am very used to using mirror lockup and do it quite quickly since there is a little button on the front that locks the mirror. Once you are used to it goes quite quickly. Mark

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i am talking about shooting people, so the mirror lock-up is not an option and tripod is in many cases not an option or desired....cannot speak for landscape/architecture work, but i would probably use something with movements if i had enough time for mirror-lock up or tripod....
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« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2006, 12:38:11 pm »

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I am very used to using mirror lockup and do it quite quickly since there is a little button on the front that locks the mirror. Once you are used to it goes quite quickly. Mark
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I don't even bother with that. I set the mirror lockup to occur with every shot--3 second delay which works for me. I switched the m.UP button on the front to be the timer button. Works nicely.

I have a different profile for action or fast shooting.
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