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« on: November 08, 2006, 05:38:01 pm »

I'm going digital from Hasselblad H1 film and 4x5 film.  Been many years since I've worked in 35mm realm.

I would appreciate your suggestions as to what lenses you have found to meet the needs of a landscape photographer.  Sharpness is essential.  I always shoot on a tripod so lens speed is not as critical as sharpness.

For a sample of what I'm shooting check out my web site:
http://www.shadowsdancing.com

I'm thinking of the Canon 24-105 f4 L IS as my normal lens.  Add a 16-35 f2.8 L and a 70-200 f 2.8 L IS as the last.

Am I nuts?

Thanks,
Jack

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 06:49:12 pm »

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I'm going digital from Hasselblad H1 film and 4x5 film.  Been many years since I've worked in 35mm realm.

I would appreciate your suggestions as to what lenses you have found to meet the needs of a landscape photographer.  Sharpness is essential.  I always shoot on a tripod so lens speed is not as critical as sharpness.

For a sample of what I'm shooting check out my web site:
http://www.shadowsdancing.com

I'm thinking of the Canon 24-105 f4 L IS as my normal lens.  Add a 16-35 f2.8 L and a 70-200 f 2.8 L IS as the last.

Am I nuts?

Thanks,
Jack
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Long ago, on this forum, it was argued that the Zeiss 21mm Distagon f/2.8?(Contax mount adapted to Canon) was the holy grail for full frame Canon digital landscape users.

[RIP Didger]

Last week, I saw one laying in a corner of my friend's office. If I can afford it (price not yet discussed), I will buy it. If not, I will announce it's availability here.

He also has the 28mm Zeiss.

He is a Nikon guy - someone asked him to sell these on eBay. They are prisine.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 07:50:27 pm »

Have you already purchased a 1ds2?

If landscape is indeed your main area of activity, I would consider the following cameras also as very serious contenders:

1. Mamiya ZD,
2. Nikon d2x.

I personnally find them overall superior for a variety of reasons already mentioned here and elsewhere.

Some recent D2x samples to help convince you.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardlangui...57594364221841/

ZD samples to be posted in the coming days.

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 09:48:01 pm »

(RIP Didger) What happened to Didger anyway?
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2006, 10:27:52 pm »

Rest In Piece...he passed away.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2006, 10:40:39 pm »

I believe he died hiking in the high sierras.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 11:28:08 pm »

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Yes. It seems that he slipped with his snow shoes and heavy pack in a lake in winter time and couldn't escape from the glacial waters. A real tragedy.

He was a major advocate of the D2x and had shown by a+b that it was a better tool than the corresponding Canon for his landscape applications. He had actually moved from a 1ds to a d2x.

He was one the rare guys out there who didn't believe what he was told until evidence were provided by his own tests to back them up.

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Bernard

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2006, 11:28:16 pm »

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Transistioning from mf/lf film to sf digital is a significant journey.  The lenses you will need depend on how you intend to create the images.  For example, if you are stitching to do panoramics or to get more resolution, you may not want to use a wide angle lens.  Or if you're concerned with depth of field and want everything in focus from near field to infinity, you may want to use a tilt-shift lens.  Of course, there are wide angle lenses, but capture quality varies significantly among them.

This is a great forum to read tutorials and essays, ask questions and get advice on equipment, techniques, computer usage and printing.  

Another good forum to learn what photographers think about specific Canon lenses is [a href=\"http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/index.php?cat=45]here[/url].  This website may give you some ideas on methods.

Best wishes.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2006, 06:29:15 pm »

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Yes. It seems that he slipped with his snow shoes and heavy pack in a lake in winter time and couldn't escape from the glacial waters. A real tragedy.

He was a major advocate of the D2x and had shown by a+b that it was a better tool than the corresponding Canon for his landscape applications. He had actually moved from a 1ds to a d2x.

He was one the rare guys out there who didn't believe what he was told until evidence were provided by his own tests to back them up.

Cheers,
Bernard
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I am really sorry to hear that. He was a very unique individual. I sold him my 1DS several years ago and had the opportunity to meet him in person. A very warm and gentle man!
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 08:57:36 pm »

At the risk of getting way off topic, telling some one to get a D2x because it tested better than the previous generation Ds, (as opposed to the current DsII), is not very useful information.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 05:37:57 pm »

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At the risk of getting way off topic, telling some one to get a D2x because it tested better than the previous generation Ds, (as opposed to the current DsII), is not very useful information.
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I didn't tell anyone to get a D2x, I adviced him to consider this option as well. There is a clear trend in some circles to go Canon because many a top shooter in North America use Canon, and to not even consider other options. The lack of coverage of Nikon on this site contributes to this, and as a very happy D2x shooter I feel that overlooking this great camera would be a mistake. This has nothing to do with brand loyalty, and everything to do with the desire to provide objective information.

Reading some more around here will tell you that many a 1ds2 shooter didn't see much improvement in detail when switching from the 1ds to the 1ds2. They definitely didn't see any improvement in image uniformity when shooting with wide angle Canon lenses either, on the contrary.

Even Michael stated in his review of the 1ds2 that the significant enhanhcements were to be found elsewhere (ergonomics, high iso noise,...).

From this standpoint, I feel that the comment remains mostly relevant, especially to someone who expresses concern about wide lenses quality.

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2006, 07:35:43 pm »

I would chose the equivalent focal lengths to the one(s) you are using.
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 08:37:38 pm »

Jack,

For landscape work take a look at the Canon TS lenses that provide perspective control.
They are slow but as you mentioned you will always be using a tripod anyway. The same applies to using f2.8 primes. Not any reason to waste money on f1.2 or f1.4 lenses.

I am less familiar with the Canon, but with Nikon there are many fine manual focus lenses that are very sharp and also lighter in weight.

Wide angle zoom lenses are not going to provide the image quality, especially at wide angle zoom settings, that a prime lens can provide. The Canon cameras with their 35mm sized sensors also do a great job of showing all of a lenses defects. With APS-C cameras the "sweet spot" or center of the lens is used and any issue with edge sharpness is greatly reduced. This was one of the pluses of the smaller digital sensors that is lost when going back to a FF camera.

Bruce
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 03:30:54 am »

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that many third-party lenses will fit Canon with an appropriate adapters. Nikon, Zeiss Distagons, you name it, it will probably fit. All you need is manual focus and manual aperture controls on the lens and you're good. You're limited to manual focus and stop-down metering with the camera in either aperture priority or manual mode, but if you are comfortable with full manual control you can avoid the shortcomings of Canon wides.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 02:13:51 pm »

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I'm going digital from Hasselblad H1 film and 4x5 film.  Been many years since I've worked in 35mm realm.

I would appreciate your suggestions as to what lenses you have found to meet the needs of a landscape photographer.  Sharpness is essential.  I always shoot on a tripod so lens speed is not as critical as sharpness.

For a sample of what I'm shooting check out my web site:
http://www.shadowsdancing.com

I'm thinking of the Canon 24-105 f4 L IS as my normal lens.  Add a 16-35 f2.8 L and a 70-200 f 2.8 L IS as the last.

Am I nuts?

Thanks,
Jack
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Just to add to the confusion, I wouldn't dismiss a secondhand Kodak SLR/n/c for landscape work, the missing AA filter and Kodak colours are a big plus in landscape and the only camera with 6 iso. I would give serious consideration to the ZD as mentioned by others, it's starting to appeal to me more and more. The new Sigma is coming in a few months, that might push a few buttons as well.

Kevin.
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