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New MacBook Pro Update
« on: July 12, 2018, 02:06:12 pm »

Apple has updated the MacBook Pros
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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 11:12:17 pm »

Finally a MacBook Pro with 32 GB RAM!!!!! :)
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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 12:45:27 am »

This all sounds good. 32gb ram. Faster 6 core processor for the top models. But I'm gonna wait. See what apple does with the mac pro in 2019. We're almost there. See what the mac mini and imac updates look like. This also gives time to read some real world reviews about the new 'puter.

In the meantime my 2015 macbook pro with only 16gb of ram is huffing and puffing along  8)

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 10:05:47 am »

Ouch, top processor 2.9GHz 6 core with 32 GB of memory and 2TB storage comes in at $4700!!!!!!!!
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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 11:05:19 am »

Does anyone know if the RAM is user upgradable?  If so, you could significantly lower the overall cost.  Any reason for a large SSD as a boot drive?  I would think that 500GB would be sufficient. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 11:29:07 am »

Does anyone know if the RAM is user upgradable? 
Nope so get it with 32 GIGs when ordering.
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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 12:48:06 pm »

Does anyone know if the RAM is user upgradable?  If so, you could significantly lower the overall cost.  Any reason for a large SSD as a boot drive?  I would think that 500GB would be sufficient.

I use internal SSD to store all my images and use external drives only for backups (do not like to dangle an external drive while working and backing up is simpler with everything on one drive). Hence the need for large internal SSD. With 2Tb internal SSD, I was occasionally worried about space :-).
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 01:01:47 pm »

Got plenty of room on my boot, the 512GB SSD in the MacBook Pro 15 Touch Bar 2016 as I keep all the big stuff on multiple external drives. IF I were to upgrade to this new MacBook Pro, I'd still got 512GB SSD but with 64 GIGs of ram.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2018, 06:15:23 pm »

Got plenty of room on my boot, the 512GB SSD in the MacBook Pro 15 Touch Bar 2016 as I keep all the big stuff on multiple external drives. IF I were to upgrade to this new MacBook Pro, I'd still got 512GB SSD but with 64 GIGs of ram.
I don't believe 64GB is an option.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2018, 06:26:58 pm »

I don't believe 64GB is an option.
Sorry no. Should be 32GB which doubles last max BTO.
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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2018, 07:33:21 pm »

Am I the only one really annoyed by the lack of USB A/B ports on these macbook pros? I bought a Surface Pro 4 for the sole reason that it has a good old USB port!

Similarly I find the SD reader on my 2013 very convenient.

The focus of Apple on design over usability is really upsetting.

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2018, 03:38:54 am »

Am I the only one really annoyed by the lack of USB A/B ports on these macbook pros? I bought a Surface Pro 4 for the sole reason that it has a good old USB port!

Similarly I find the SD reader on my 2013 very convenient.

The focus of Apple on design over usability is really upsetting.

No, Bernard, you're not the only one. There have been many complaints about it. But Apple makes its own path when it comes to ports and devices. People screamed about the lack of 3.5" floppy drives, internal CD / DVD drives, the loss of a serial port, FireWire, ADB, whatever the bizarre video output they introduced 10 years ago, and so on. Sometimes they're right (who'd miss a floppy now, or an internal CD/DVD)? Sometimes not - FireWire was never widely adopted, useful though it was at the time, and has now died. But it's Apple.

I agree about the SD reader, though.

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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2018, 04:53:51 am »

We are two years after the 2016 macbook pro.. USB 2 and 3 are still most common used.
But i can see the benefit of USB-C unlike the first thunderbolt ports without anything to connect to... for years after its introduction.

In 2016 i adviced a friend who writes a lot to buy the 2015 model because of the usb 3 ports, the cardreader, the magnetic power connector and the better keyboard.
Also there was not much better on the 2016 model , only slimmer and a bit lighter.

2018: the 2016 keyboard has been replaced by a new one - let us hope it is better.
The oled key strip is still there - costs a lot but is it useful?
Anyway there is 32 ram, a six-core processor and eGPU;  a worthy but expensive upgrade.

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Re: New MacBook Pro Update
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2018, 07:07:05 am »

Am I the only one really annoyed by the lack of USB A/B ports on these macbook pros? I bought a Surface Pro 4 for the sole reason that it has a good old USB port!

Similarly I find the SD reader on my 2013 very convenient.

The focus of Apple on design over usability is really upsetting.

Cheers,
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No, you’re not the only one. When my 17” died last year, i had to buy $300 worth of adapters to be able to work with the things I need to connect to. And of course, I have to carry those adapters around with the MBP.

Apple’s design wizards have blinders that keep them from seeing anything but the machine itself. How sleek is your MBP if it has to trail a lumpy bag of adapters with it inorder to get any work done?

And another thing—what’s with the AC adapter?? That thing is the same size it’s been for a decade: massive. And why the heavy grounded cable and plug when clearly the adapter is not grounded, as the wall-wart plug adapter isn’t grounded? It’s like some weird, narcissistic design fantasy.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2018, 10:51:22 am »

Most of my photo buddies and I all have small docks for our MBPs.  It obviates the needs you guys talk about.  I use UHS-II SD cards so I want faster transfer speeds than the old USB connections anyway.

Yeah, now start whining about how you don't want to have a small dock to carry around in your bag and how you don't like external drives, etc.   ;)  ;)
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2018, 04:59:59 pm »

I use UHS-II SD cards so I want faster transfer speeds than the old USB connections anyway.

You realise you can get USB3 with "old" style connectors, right?
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2018, 06:27:50 pm »

Most of my photo buddies and I all have small docks for our MBPs.  It obviates the needs you guys talk about.  I use UHS-II SD cards so I want faster transfer speeds than the old USB connections anyway.

Yeah, now start whining about how you don't want to have a small dock to carry around in your bag and how you don't like external drives, etc.   ;)  ;)

Sorry if you think I’m whining. If I could do everything I need to with a small dock, I’d be happy as a clam.

To offload the Red cards, I need to go from eSATA to two thunderbolt or usb3 drives.
To tether the P65+ I need to go from FireWire to usbc.
To offload cards from the still cameras I need to go from usb3 to usbc, then out to a thunderbolt or usb3 drive..
To get out to my biggest agency client’s monitors, I need hdmi from a dongle that’s not Apple’s because Apple’s hdmi dongle isn’t compatible with their system, but Kensington’s is.

So your tidy little dock would work for some of what I need, but force all of it through one usbc port, so the transfer speeds would slow to a crawl.

And when I went into my local Apple store to research what I needed to connect to all my stuff before buying the MacBook (semi) Pro, the associate I talked to told me I should “just get rid of all that old stuff”.
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2018, 06:52:08 pm »

If I could do everything I need to with a small dock, I’d be happy as a clam.

I haven't read the whole thread , but this won't cut it ..?



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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2018, 07:22:59 pm »

I haven't read the whole thread , but this won't cut it ..?



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Nope.

It forces all IO through one port. If you only do one thing at a time, it gives you plent6 of options. But if you want to play 4K video from an external drive to an HDMI monitor, that’s not going to do the job.
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 05:33:53 am »


2018: the 2016 keyboard has been replaced by a new one - let us hope it is better.

As minimum they putter a dust cover: https://youtu.be/2tbVDV1xdQI , so it does not have the same issues as the previous ones where small amount of dust breaks it.

Anyway... being a lover of mechanical keyboards still don’t like the small amount of key travel of this keyboards...

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Anyway there is 32 ram, a six-core processor and eGPU;  a worthy but expensive upgrade.

eGPU was already available  since the thunderbolt 3 MacBook Pros we’re out in 2016... officially supported with the release of high sierra. The only difference is that now you have a complete box and you don’t need to buy enclosure + GPU... less upgradable in the future but more user friendly... the eGPU is not really made by Apple, it is from backmagic.



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