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Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« on: July 03, 2018, 02:10:40 PM »

I have 6 TB of photos that (in addition to my backups onto external hard drives) I would like to back up online using something like Backblaze. The problem is my upload max speed is 10-15 mbps so I might die before I get the photos all uploaded. Anybody know of any workarounds for this problem? I'm wondering if you can send your files on a hard drive to any sites like Backblaze. Suggestions?
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 02:53:08 PM »

I have 6 TB of photos that (in addition to my backups onto external hard drives) I would like to back up online using something like Backblaze. The problem is my upload max speed is 10-15 mbps so I might die before I get the photos all uploaded. Anybody know of any workarounds for this problem? I'm wondering if you can send your files on a hard drive to any sites like Backblaze.

You can, at least in the case of BackBlaze:

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/introducing-backblazes-rapid-ingest-service-fireball/

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/cost-data-of-transfer-cloud-storage/

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 11:05:49 PM »

Thanks for the info. I checked BackBlaze rapid ingest service fireball service. It costs $550 to rent the device to put your data on and mail back to them. That would make sense if you had a lot of data, but for 6 TB it's too expensive. Oh well, a nice thought....
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2018, 01:52:17 AM »

Thanks for the info. I checked BackBlaze rapid ingest service fireball service. It costs $550 to rent the device to put your data on and mail back to them. That would make sense if you had a lot of data, but for 6 TB it's too expensive. Oh well, a nice thought....

How much would it cost you if you lost your data?
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2018, 03:57:25 AM »

Thanks for the info. I checked BackBlaze rapid ingest service fireball service. It costs $550 to rent the device to put your data on and mail back to them. That would make sense if you had a lot of data, but for 6 TB it's too expensive. Oh well, a nice thought....

Many of us would think 6TB was quite a lot of data! Anyway, the purpose of backup is ability to restore, not just to provide peace of mind from the though that "it's somewhere else as well". How long would it take you to download 6TB form an online backup if you lost it?

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2018, 05:49:19 AM »

I have 6 TB of photos that (in addition to my backups onto external hard drives) I would like to back up online using something like Backblaze. The problem is my upload max speed is 10-15 mbps so I might die before I get the photos all uploaded. Anybody know of any workarounds for this problem? I'm wondering if you can send your files on a hard drive to any sites like Backblaze. Suggestions?

My upload speed is 18mbps and it took me 5 weeks to backup 6TB of photos to Backblaze.

Re. restoring data. Backblaze will send you the data on a hard drive.
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2018, 10:26:40 AM »

Honestly, 6TB is nothing - as I do a 30TB replication between 2 NAS's  ;)  The trick is in Backblaze exclude some folders - as in anything shoot more than 6 months old.  Once it has the most recent stuff uploaded, then start removing the exclusions working from newest to oldest.  That way the most important, valuable shots get uploaded first.

Or head down to the library - or any other place that has faster upload speeds.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Francisco-Public-Library-Nations-Fastest-Internet-Access-311586421.html
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »

My upload speed is 18mbps and it took me 5 weeks to backup 6TB of photos to Backblaze.

I have somewhat more than that, and it took a couple of weeks to do the upload over a 50 Mb/s ATT IPFlex connection (theoretical time for 6TB is 11.1 days). Backblaze supported that transfer speed: I was getting 6+ MB/s speed reports from GoodSync, and everything else, including HD Netflix streaming, worked just fine during the upload. However, every 24 or 36 hours the Backblaze server would stop responding and I'd have to re-click "Analyze and Synch" in GoodSync.

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2018, 12:00:17 PM »

Why do you need online? I assume you are worried that a fire or tornado or burglary will happen? Why not back up onto hard disks yourself and make sure the disks are secure? I use our safe, which will survive pretty much anything. Or, a safe deposit box at a bank.
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2018, 01:40:35 PM »

Why do you need online? I assume you are worried that a fire or tornado or burglary will happen? Why not back up onto hard disks yourself and make sure the disks are secure? I use our safe, which will survive pretty much anything. Or, a safe deposit box at a bank.

I do that, too. Can't have too many copies...

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2018, 07:00:34 PM »

Does your bank say that your safe deposit box is waterproof or fireproof?  Is it insured? 

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2018, 07:03:57 PM »

Just keep your computer on and let it run. I uploaded about 2.5tb to black blaze that way.


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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2018, 08:08:37 PM »

I do that, too. Can't have too many copies...
That is the key. I have a PO Box and just keep one in there also. Safes are good but "fireproof" safes are only fireproof for documents which burn at a much higher temp than hard drives melt.
To me in Australia on line systems are useless. It would take 6 months to upload my data
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2018, 10:53:42 PM »

Just because it will take a “long” is no reason to abandon the idea.    Make a complete backup (or two) on external drives, and store them in two different locations.  Then start backing up new data you create and files you change today and going forward at Backblaze. This will rapidly reach stasis, and you will have all of your data offsite.  Then start adding the older data to Backblaze.   Eventually, it will finish. 
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2018, 11:11:01 PM »

If you backed up two external drives and kept one in your house and one in your neighbor's or relatives, what would be the odds both houses would burn down at the same time.  Is the cloud any more secure?

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2018, 11:50:34 PM »

If you backed up two external drives and kept one in your house and one in your neighbor's or relatives, what would be the odds both houses would burn down at the same time.  Is the cloud any more secure?

Prior to 9/11, there were companies in the WTC that had their backup in the other tower ...

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2018, 12:20:55 AM »

I created my own Cloud backup using two QNAP NAS's.  I had both onsite for the initial data load and then packed up the second and installed it at my son's home.  Initial cost is higher but I have no monthly costs and I control everything with the hardware and network connections.  Using RAID10 I would need two hard drives in the NAS to fail to lose any data.  Oh, and my son is 10 hour drive away so I'm pretty sure that no fire or flood will hit both homes at the same time. 

I know it's not what you were asking but I contemplated the same before I went this route. 
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2018, 03:04:40 AM »

For offsite, the appeal of Backblaze is that you don't have to think about it or arrange anything.  Set it off and away it goes.   50 bucks a year is hard to beat cost wise.  You haven't had online backup for the past few months, at least you will know over the next few months it will be taken care of.

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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2018, 09:49:57 PM »

If you backed up two external drives and kept one in your house and one in your neighbor's or relatives, what would be the odds both houses would burn down at the same time.  Is the cloud any more secure?

Sadly, any backup process which requires manual intervention everyday is likely to fail because we are lazy.  The beauty of a cloud-like solution - whether it’s a commercial cloud or one you set up yourself - is that it runs every day (or hour) with no intervention. 
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Re: Online backup of 6 TB of photos. How?
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2018, 12:16:37 AM »

For offsite, the appeal of Backblaze is that you don't have to think about it or arrange anything. 

For any backup system, I recommend periodic trial restores. Set and forget is not a good strategy, IMO.

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