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Phase One P30+ substitute
« on: June 26, 2018, 07:16:56 AM »

Ive been shooting with a Phase One P30+ for several years. Itís a wonderful kit on so many levels. The only thing is, my back (and my wallet) needs a lighter load. I shoot mostly landscape. I also shoot with a Leica M240 and love it. I have no doubt current P1 backs are of unparalleled quality, but so is the price tag. I donít need 100mp digital back. I want a lighter/smaller kit with a more reasonable price, that also provides equal or better image quality as my P30+. Fuji, Sony, Nikon, Leica SL...? Any ideas? Thanks!!!

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2018, 07:46:40 AM »

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2018, 08:16:59 AM »

Ive been shooting with a Phase One P30+ for several years. Itís a wonderful kit on so many levels. The only thing is, my back (and my wallet) needs a lighter load. I shoot mostly landscape. I also shoot with a Leica M240 and love it. I have no doubt current P1 backs are of unparalleled quality, but so is the price tag. I donít need 100mp digital back. I want a lighter/smaller kit with a more reasonable price, that also provides equal or better image quality as my P30+. Fuji, Sony, Nikon, Leica SL...? Any ideas? Thanks!!!

Some good options:
- Sony a7rIII
- Nikon D850
- Hasselblad X1D
- Fuji GFX 50s

If leaf shutter lenses are needed, then the Hasselblad is the only game in town meeting compactness and price criteria.

Cheers,
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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2018, 10:55:43 AM »

Some good options:
- Sony a7rIII
- Nikon D850
- Hasselblad X1D
- Fuji GFX 50s

If leaf shutter lenses are needed, then the Hasselblad is the only game in town meeting compactness and price criteria.

Cheers,
Bernard


Thanks Bernard. The Fuji specs out very nicely. Do you know if GFX50s RAW files will work in Capture One? On the Phase One site, I see many Fuji supported cameras, but not the GFX50s. I find that unusual given it's medium format...

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 12:21:31 PM »


Thanks Bernard. The Fuji specs out very nicely. Do you know if GFX50s RAW files will work in Capture One? On the Phase One site, I see many Fuji supported cameras, but not the GFX50s. I find that unusual given it's medium format...

It is not, and will not be. Phase One supports a variety of small format cameras in Capture One but only their own medium format solutions.

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 12:55:58 PM »

It is not, and will not be. Phase One supports a variety of small format cameras in Capture One but only their own medium format solutions.

Hmm... thatís too bad.

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 06:39:19 PM »

Hmm... thatís too bad.

I started to work with Lightroom when the same problem hit me with my Hasselblad H6D-100c files, and discovered that LR had progressed very significantly these past years.

To the extend that I am wondering whether I will keep using C1 Pro for my D850 files moving forward.

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 07:21:17 PM »

It is rumored that Fuji is introducing something lighter and cheaper -a rangefinder-like- based on the 50MP sensor, at Photokina in a couple of months. I wouldn't expect a leaf shutter, obviously, and for lenses it will be the GFX50 range. Also, prices on the Hassy are falling. If you can live with a 35mm system, then all of the cameras on Bernard's list are probably well within striking distance of the P30, except for the famed "MF look" and skin tones.

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Some good options:
- Sony a7rIII
- Nikon D850
- Hasselblad X1D
- Fuji GFX 50s

If leaf shutter lenses are needed, then the Hasselblad is the only game in town meeting compactness and price criteria.

Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2018, 11:18:33 AM »

This is all very helpful. Thanks everyone!
I know itís not mirrorless, but any thoughts on the Nikon D850? Iíve been looking into this one and it looks very impressive.

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2018, 07:09:36 PM »

This is all very helpful. Thanks everyone!
I know itís not mirrorless, but any thoughts on the Nikon D850? Iíve been looking into this one and it looks very impressive.

Yes, the D850 is a remarkable piece of equipment and is close to best in class in many dimensions which makes it the best all rounder camera ever designed IMHO.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2018, 10:04:07 PM »

Yes, the D850 is a remarkable piece of equipment and is close to best in class in many dimensions which makes it the best all rounder camera ever designed IMHO.

Cheers,
Bernard


From all Iíve seen online about the D850, I think you might be right :)

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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 04:00:56 PM »

Love my D850.  With three Zeiss ZF.2 lenses (21mm,  28mm, and 85mm) it cost about the same as ONE Phase One Blue Ring lens. 

So glad to be off the Phase One train.  Updates cost an arm and a kidney. 
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Re: Phase One P30+ substitute
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 11:50:16 AM »

Indeed. I too am glad to be off the Phase One train. Extraordinary cameras, but just way too much money. I want a good car, but I don't need a Bugatti. I got my first Phase kit back in 2006. Back then, full frame 35mm didn't cut it for my needs. Now, 35mm has come a LONG way. So has medium format. Although even if I could afford it, I don't need 100MP. With the D850, I feel confident that it'll deliver all I need, and more. Plus, upgrading in the future won't be prohibitive.

Question about focus stacking feature on the D850. Will it work with non-Nikon lenses?
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