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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2018, 04:26:20 PM »

From fake news CNN, fake photo's from a fake director (?) but.... at least it's got something to do with photography:
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2018/06/entertainment/stanley-kubrick-cnnphotos/index.html
Take a moment from all this political nonsense and open your minds to an amazing talent!
Then you can return to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_and_religious_beliefs_of_Stanley_Kubrick
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2018, 05:42:48 PM »

From the other side of the world it is very saddening to see the great USA tearing itself to pieces. We believed there was "something" about the US that held to the idea of better  world view. It seems that the election of Mr Trump has divided the nation permanently.

Not for us to say right or wrong but we do observe a decline in government policy that holds things like achieving greater public good, sense of high purpose and moral leadership to be important.  The US government used to be the "stand-out" on such things but I fear the neo-liberalism of Thatcher and Reagan, which preaches an "every man for himself" has taken hold throughout the West.

Anyway, good luck, and there's always New Zealand. (US nationals are second highest group migrating to New Zealand currently, Chinese being the largest.   No, I'm not a New Zealander)

Don;t believe every liberal article you read.  Except for the political class, the rest of us are busy 98% of the time dealing with grandchildren, credit card debt, weddings, finding a better job, death, and birth, finding a good new restaurant to eat at and other family and social pastimes.  My direct involvement with politics recently is that I voted last Saturday for a bond issue to finance a new fire house and fire engine for my town.  No, they didn't ask me for ID when I voted.  I just told the person my name, she looked it up and gave me the ballet to vote with.  I asked her if I could vote for my wife too since she couldn't make it.  She laughed but drew the line there.

I do agree that there seems to be more angst.  People are more on edge.  But I remember the 1960's and 1970's with the Chicago riots at the Democrat convention, cities burning down when Martin Luther King was assassinated, Black Liberation Army blowing things up, the Weathermen, Vietnam riots, Kent State, Mutually Assured Destruction as the Soviets and Americans had their ICBM's on instantaneous launch.  Personally I was an airman in the Strategic Air COmmand where we had B-52 Bombers with A bombs on 15 minute launch alert in case the Ruskies attacked or we decided to attack first.  So I was personally involved in the insanity.  But things worked out.  The Soviets are gone, Eastern Europe is free, Chicago is dealing now with a gang problem, and American is still standing a free nation.  There's Medicare and Obamacare and loads of other benefits to achieve "the public good" whatever that means.  People speak down other people and are asking them to leave restaurants.  At least they're not shooting them or blowing them up like back then.  Well mostly, anyway.

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2018, 05:46:22 PM »

Don;t believe every liberal article you read.
Don't believe every conservative article or conservative poster you read. Read many differing sources and look for consistency. Worry about anything being called fake without proof from multiple sources that there's anything at all fake about what's reported; today that's the mantra for dismissing what other's disagree with.
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2018, 11:46:26 AM »

Shame you guys do not like or follow Football World Cup in Russia, much more interesting than this:)

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2018, 01:23:08 PM »

Shame you guys do not like or follow Football World Cup in Russia, much more interesting than this:)
Breaking my rule of not commenting!!! 

I've probably watched all but two matches so far.  I was hoping Iran would defeat Portugal yesterday and move on to the round of 16 which would have been pretty good.  Spain don't look good at all these days and Germany could still go out which would also suit me just fine.  France and Denmark just played a lifeless 0-0 draw once Peru went up on Australia and there was really no point in pushing on hard for a goal. 

I guess if there are favorites it might be Croatia and Belgium and wouldn't it be great if they met in the final!!!
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2018, 04:40:56 PM »

Wow, four locked topics in four days.  Looks like this place to hell in a hand basket while I was gone. 
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2018, 04:45:34 PM »

Wow, four locked topics in four days.  Looks like this place to hell in a hand basket while I was gone.
Just substitute "The Coffee Corner" for Chinatown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cWnubJ9CEw
I could go on a conspiracy theory that the reason this one forum remains here is it gets lots of hits which the advertisers may like.
I really do believe Chris and Kevin should consider just making it go away. Let's stick to debating photography; Nikon vs. Canon (or Sony). Epson vs. Canon (or HP). Film vs. Digital.  :P
Possible proof of concept. Close the forum down for 30 days. Add up the number of locked threads. Compare to the number the prior month.
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2018, 07:13:44 PM »

Breaking my rule of not commenting!!! ...

Your constant "quitting" reminds me of the old joke:

"It’s Easy to Quit Smoking. I’ve Done It a Thousand Times."

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2018, 07:19:07 PM »

Your constant "quitting" reminds me of the old joke:
"It’s Easy to Quit Smoking. I’ve Done It a Thousand Times."
An attempt to comment via an image:

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2018, 04:20:30 AM »

I could go on a conspiracy theory that the reason this one forum remains here is it gets lots of hits which the advertisers may like.

You could, of course, but it would be misguided. The forum remains here, and political discussions were reintroduced (or re-allowed, if you prefer), because I offered to moderate them and persuaded Kevin and Chris that it was a good idea.

I really do believe Chris and Kevin should consider just making it go away. Let's stick to debating photography; Nikon vs. Canon (or Sony). Epson vs. Canon (or HP). Film vs. Digital.  :P

Then you make your argument to them and see if you can persuade them. I would make a counter-argument, for the reasons I set out in my first post after assuming the moderator's mantle. Or the moderator's tunic of Nessus, as it sometimes seems.

Possible proof of concept. Close the forum down for 30 days. Add up the number of locked threads. Compare to the number the prior month.

There's no need to do that: the proof that more threads are locked, by me or their originators, in the CC forum than on other areas here is trivial to obtain by looking for locked threads and counting them. Of course it's true. One of the main reasons for locking threads is antagonism, and that is (obviously) more prevalent when politics are being discussed. Even among photographers.

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2018, 07:39:11 AM »

AN EXCITING NEW IDEA!

If anyone doesn't like enjoy a thread, rather than bleat to have it closed, why not just ignore it and read something else or, better, contribute something mind bendingly better of your own?

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2018, 10:21:46 AM »

Let's stick to debating photography; Nikon vs. Canon (or Sony). Epson vs. Canon (or HP). Film vs. Digital.

And that's your idea of a debate about photography, Andrew? That's a debate about equipment; nowadays a pretty silly debate since all of it works well enough to actually use in making photographs.

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« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2018, 10:38:15 AM »

And that's your idea of a debate about photography, Andrew? That's a debate about equipment; nowadays a pretty silly debate since all of it works well enough to actually use in making photographs.
Sarcasm impaired?
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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2018, 12:41:46 PM »

AN EXCITING NEW IDEA!

If anyone doesn't like enjoy a thread, rather than bleat to have it closed, why not just ignore it and read something else or, better, contribute something mind bendingly better of your own?

Rob

Preferably a photograph.

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2018, 02:20:33 PM »

Preferably a photograph.

Hey, steady on.

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Re: Observer's view
« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2018, 10:27:50 PM »

It's of some comfort to me that what's been said here is pretty much the same as you would here from people in my country of Australia. Not just the comments but the feelings behind them as well. Quite heartening really.
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