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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #120 on: June 23, 2018, 11:46:05 am »

Another great Hoffer quote, "To rely on the evidence of the senses and of reason is heresy and treason.  It is startling to realize how much unbelief is necessary to make beliefs possible.  What we know as blind faith is sustained by innumerable unbeliefs."  #56
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #121 on: June 23, 2018, 11:49:35 am »

...  "Rudeness is the weak mans imitation of strength." - Eric Hoffer...

Look who is talking.

Show me where I, Alan K, Kent, etc, used any rudeness in addressing our fellow forum members. In the meantime, we were called "pathetic human beings," "immoral little shit," racists, Nazis, etc.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #122 on: June 23, 2018, 11:54:03 am »

Exactly, Slobodan. You're dealing with the considerate and learned left.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #123 on: June 23, 2018, 11:54:42 am »

Look who is talking.
Show me where I, Alan K, Kent, etc, used any rudeness in addressing our fellow forum members. In the meantime, we were called "pathetic human beings," "immoral little shit," racists, Nazis, etc.
You read and comprehend based on your own agenda and bias! I was referring to Trump. Show me where I stated you, Alan K or Kent were rude. You can't. Because I didn't. The guy you presumably voted for, lots and lots of evidence you'll call fake news. Even though, he's been recorded on video and through Twitter doing exactly that. Calling him rude (for just his comments about grabbing women) is a fact, unless you'd like to now tell us it was doctored by Obama or the FBI or the deep state. Or that ONE statement about grabbing woman isn't in your opinion rude.
The hypocrites continue and the hypocrites can't see it as such.
That’s just the results of your confirmation bias:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #124 on: June 23, 2018, 11:59:22 am »

Exactly, Slobodan. You're dealing with the considerate and learned left.
Exactly, 2+2 equals 4, therefore the Earth is flat.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #125 on: June 23, 2018, 11:59:36 am »

In another thread, I called a fellow member's post processing result "horrible" and got a warning from the moderator for the lack of curtesy. And here we can be called names like "immoral little shit." This is not a dig at the moderator, by the way, but at the "politically correct" crowd where the PC goes only one way.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #126 on: June 23, 2018, 12:01:00 pm »

A lot... about freedom of speech.

Ah, I see where the confusion comes from.
Just to remind, freedom comes with the responsibility to use it wisely ...

And it works both ways:
"“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.”

― Winston S. Churchill
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #127 on: June 23, 2018, 12:05:28 pm »

In another thread, I called a fellow member's post processing result "horrible" and got a warning from the moderator for the lack of curtesy. And here we can be called names like "immoral little shit." This is not a dig at the moderator, by the way, but at the "politically correct" crowd where the PC goes only one way.
Please, point out where YOU were called that. I can't find the post. I can find a post where Trump was referenced using that language. Are you posting here Mr. President under the alias of Slododan?
Again, if you were specifically called an immoral little shit, it's wrong and should be dealt with by the moderator. That it isn't could perhaps be because once again, you're not reading what other's write outside your own bubble and assume it's directed at you. I see no evidence of this but I ask you to educate me to where you were called this foul name. If you can't, I suggest you consider reading people's posts a bit slower or repeatedly before posting and crying foul. If you can find the post where you were called this, I support your efforts for moderation.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #128 on: June 23, 2018, 12:06:20 pm »

...Or that ONE statement about grabbing woman isn't in your opinion rude...

And indeed it isn't. It was a simple statement of fact. Every man, but gay and hopelessly single, has done that. He was just luckier than the rest of us for being offered that, without having to buy dinner and flowers first.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #129 on: June 23, 2018, 12:07:08 pm »

You can not compare European and US immigration. Europe is awful at it. Not saying splitting up family’s is excusable at all.

Don’t think everyone wants to move to the US by the way. I moved for 6 months, had a job, an American girslfriend and other blood relatives.  It just wasn’t for me. No country is perfect of course but the US has a tremendous amount going for it.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #130 on: June 23, 2018, 12:07:31 pm »

Ah, I see where the confusion comes from.
Just to remind, freedom comes with the responsibility to use it wisely ...

Nope. It is either free or it is not. Here it is free, not so much in Europe, so I can see why you are confused.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #131 on: June 23, 2018, 12:09:05 pm »

And indeed it isn't. It was a simple statement of fact. Every man, but gay and hopelessly single, has done that.
No! This man has never done that. Perhaps growing up with three sisters and no bothers, and pretty good parents instilled a sense of respect for women some here and some in the White House don't have. PLEASE don't lump me and all other men in such an absurd generalization. I'll ignore what appears to be a somewhat homophonic comment which is also utterly absurd. Meanwhile,you have some post searching to do, to back up your claims that you were called.....
Post less, read more?
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #132 on: June 23, 2018, 12:19:44 pm »

Sheesh, don't you people even READ things before you get all het up? I read the entire original article, twice, and nowhere does it say the little girl was separated from her mother. In fact it explicitly says that they (mother and child) were put in a van to be transported. No fake news here.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #133 on: June 23, 2018, 12:20:20 pm »

... where you were called this foul name...

Let's see...

The longer quote from Bill is (bold mine): "an utterly immoral little shit who will excuse the forceful separation of young children from their parents..."

Obviously, several of us here who are seeing the separation in different light are, according to Bill, "excusing it." Right? If so, the insult was directed to us, under a thin veil of not being personally specific. Just like being called racist, Nazi, etc. under the same thin veil of non-specificity.

 

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #134 on: June 23, 2018, 12:22:35 pm »

Sheesh, don't you people even READ things before you get all het up? I read the entire original article, twice, and nowhere does it say the little girl was separated from her mother. In fact it explicitly says that they (mother and child) were put in a van to be transported. No fake news here.

Not sure which article you are referring to, but it was most likely written AFTER it was already known that the original interpretation of the image was false.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #135 on: June 23, 2018, 12:25:22 pm »

... That’s just the results of your confirmation bias:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

While you were busy studying for a PhD in googling, I actually got a real, academic, postgraduate degree for studying, among other things, confirmation bias.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #136 on: June 23, 2018, 12:29:40 pm »

Let's see...

The longer quote from Bill is (bold mine): "an utterly immoral little shit who will excuse the forceful separation of young children from their parents..."
So you're taking responsibility for the separation of young children Slodoban? Because Bill didn't say you did. Yet you wish to take that on as your burden.
Let's see blindly is more like it.
NO WHERE yet did anyone say you or the other's stated this because that statement wasn't made that I can find. Maybe you're just feeling guilty and associating yourself with that act or maybe you are Trump posting under an alias. But the reason the post wasn't pulled or locked down appears to me, and I hope our moderators, is because the text you find so offensive was not directed at you.
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Obviously, several of us here who are seeing the separation in different light are, according to Bill, "excusing it." Right?
Wrong and not obvious. But if you insist on taking direct responsibly instead of Trump and Sessions, then perhaps that insult was directed specifically at you. Like most of your posting here, zero evidence of that; perhaps you should take Bills comments as metaphorical instead of literally....
As usual, you expect to have it both ways.  :P
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #137 on: June 23, 2018, 12:31:25 pm »

While you were busy studying for a PhD in googling, I actually got a real, academic, postgraduate degree for studying, among other things, confirmation bias.
Fake news, what you say you studied is all to be taken metaphorically anyway.  ;D
Did you metaphorically grab women as you state all males did?
It was a simple statement of fact. Every man, but gay and hopelessly single, has done that.
Gay or single?
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #138 on: June 23, 2018, 12:37:22 pm »

So you're taking responsibility for the separation of young children Slodoban Slobodan?.

I even put the word "excuse" in bold, hoping you will notice it, alas...

I certainly do not and can not take responsibility for the government actions. I can, however, agree with it (or as Bill would say "excuse" it). Bill was not talking about originators of the policy (Trump) but about Americans who "excuse" it.

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« Reply #139 on: June 23, 2018, 12:38:13 pm »

While you were busy studying for a PhD in googling, I actually got a real, academic, postgraduate degree for studying, among other things, confirmation bias.
And I actually got a degree in photography.
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