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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2018, 01:20:51 PM »

I also posted a link to photos of cats high on catnip (in case you missed it)
Stoned cats!
The Digital Dog is jealous...
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2018, 02:02:43 PM »

Kids cry. On flights especially. Then get kicked off the flight. To relieve the suffering of fellow passengers. No outrage. No magazine covers.

Without their parents?

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2018, 02:06:46 PM »

Without their parents?
And for weeks, months?
Some are utterly compassion impaired.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2018, 02:39:44 PM »

Without their parents?

The kid in question in the OP was with her mother.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2018, 02:43:37 PM »

The kid in question in the OP was with her mother.
That dismisses the Trump policy and the 2300+ that were separated in two months? No, I don't expect an answer.
You can prove that the photo you provided from the Obama administration, the kids were indeed separated from their families by ICE? No, I don't expect an answer.
You can prove that the statements from Obama's administration I provided was a lie, and indeed, they separated children from their families at the border? No, I don't expect an answer.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2018, 03:01:54 PM »

The kid in question in the OP was with her mother.

Yes, that kid.

By the way, my favorite Republican response was, “child actors,” by Ann Coulter who seems intent on being the American Marie Antoinette. Although “actors” is getting a bit old. I hope she can be a bit more original, she is entertaing.

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2018, 03:43:21 PM »

An interesting perspective (from the CNN, fake news for some):

There's no question that the parents of these children are trying to enter the country illegally. But it's simply not that cut and dried. Many are fleeing persecution in their native countries, seeking asylum in the United States. And all love their kids and are, for the most part, just trying to do right by them. (This obviously doesn't hold for smugglers trying to use children to get into the US.)
These children have committed no crime. They don't know any better. All they know is that one minute they were with their parents and the next they were with a stranger -- and often being flown to some far-off locale where they know no one.

Take it out of this circumstance. Let's say you are walking around a grocery store and you see a 5-year-old boy walking alone and crying. Do you think:
a) "I wonder if this boy and his parents are legally in the country and therefore one of 'our kids'"
OR
b) "This poor little boy is lost. I have to help him find his mother."
Unless you're Voldemort, you always choose "B." Because the priority isn't whether this kid is "one of ours" but rather that the kid is lost and scared. Basic human decency takes over.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2018, 03:52:37 PM »

We ARE helping those kids. They WILL be reunited with their parents or relatives.

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2018, 03:55:43 PM »

They WILL be reunited with their parents or relatives.
You're working on that? Don't answer, you can't. More speculations. They shouldn’t need to be reunited in the first place; a point some are attempting to make that some here will never accept. It's part of being compassion deficient.
Jeremy, while some here love to yell 'Lock her up', I'd prefer 'lock it down'; this tread, maybe the entire Coffee Corner. You have better things to do, that would force others to do better things! 

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2018, 04:00:29 PM »

Every time a parent goes to jail, immigrant or citizen, children are separated by default. So, yes they needed to be separated as their parents went to jail. Unless you want them in jail too?

As for "compassion"... when logic and facts fail, the last resort of losers is appeal to compassion.

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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2018, 04:16:21 PM »

I agree that there's fake news on all sides.  The problem is that the media that has the most "juice" like the NY Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC, distort on the side of liberal, Democrat and anti Trump.  Then Google, and even the smaller news outlets, repeat more of these distorted views because they byline the bigger and more influential liberal newspapers.  All this reporting also goes out across the world so people in other countries get the anti-Trump, liberally distorted news as well.
Do you believe that all the fact checking on Trump statement is 'fake' news?
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2018, 04:48:08 PM »

Do you believe that all the fact checking on Trump statement is 'fake' news?

Not all... most.

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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2018, 04:55:14 PM »

Do you believe that all the fact checking on Trump statement is 'fake' news?
They look for negative news and place it on page 1 in bold, large font and bury good news what Trump does on page 47.  Like global warming, the biased press focuses on the stuff that supports their view and minimizes good news. 

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2018, 05:06:47 PM »

Fake news is also about playing word games. Like when Trump said Obama was tapping his phones, the press laughed and said that's ridiculous, isn't he a wacko.  But it turned out they were spying on him.  And that's the point.  So while there may not have been a tap with Obama listening in with earphones, obviously not what Trump meant, the point Trump made was the Obama administration was spying on him, which turned out to be true. 

The bias is over-the-top to most reasonable people but not Trump haters.  The media never did that before with Obama and never went to that extent even with other Republicans.  If the Republicans keep Congress in November and Trump gets re-elected in 2020, the whole Democrat and liberal media strategy would be shown to have failed.  That will mean that independents saw through the BS.  Time will tell.

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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2018, 05:12:20 PM »

Fake news is also about playing word games. Like when Trump said Obama was tapping his phones, the press laughed and said that's ridiculous, isn't he a wacko. 
Instead of just saying it was a big fat lie of his, like so many. Wacko is better than liar I suppose.
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But it turned out they were spying on him.
They were tapping his phones?
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So while there may not have been a tap with Obama listening in with earphones, obviously not what Trump meant, the point Trump made was the Obama administration was spying on him, which turned out to be true
What is obvious to me was he lied. He's a big boy. He said his phones were tapped. That's either a true statement or it's a lie;which was it?
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The media never did that before with Obama and never went to that extent even with other Republicans.
They did, it's just Obama didn't lie as much (he did get caught in some lies, so did many other presidents). The difference (and again, context is key), is how many more lies Trump tells than others.
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That will mean that independents saw through the BS.  Time will tell.
It will, we should revisit this then.
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Re: How do you like him now? Trump vs the little kid.
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2018, 05:43:32 PM »

Andrew, you just proved my point.  Thanks.

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2018, 05:45:21 PM »

Andrew, you just proved my point.  Thanks.
You are very welcome. As such, I would thank you if you answer my last question.
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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2018, 06:03:36 PM »

You are very welcome. As such, I would thank you if you answer my last question.
What question? 
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