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scrollop

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Using the catalog with filters is slow and inconsistent
« on: June 10, 2018, 09:59:11 AM »

I've imported 220 000 (aprox 4.4 tb) photos/videos into a catalog (system: win 10 x64, 24gigs, 4th gen i7, GTX 970, C1 11.1.1 catalog on an SSD). That took a few hours to import and 24 hours to make 900x previews.

There are major issues when attempting to use the catalog.

- It's inconsistent. When selecting a filter of f1.4, for example, where alongside the filter it states there are 15 000 images, perhaps 2000 images appear (slowly). Switching to other filters does not show the correct amount of photos in the browser vs the amount alongside the filter. Sometimes, when changing from one filter to another, nothing happens.

- It's slow. It takes a long time to import photos, and after you import them, the system appears to review every photo when populating the filter figures.

- When selecting one filter eg. 35mm (though the system doesn't show the correct amount of photos) and another filter eg f1.4 (using CTRL), the second filter selection does not refine the results ie. nothing happens.

On paper the filter system appears powerful. In practice, IMHO, it is inconsistent and slow and thus unusable.

If you have any recommendations on how to improve performance, I'd appreciate it.


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Re: Using the catalog with filters is slow and inconsistent
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2018, 12:23:48 PM »

Also, when selecting f1.4, for example, which apparently has 15000 photos, why does it only show 2 photos?
After waiting 30 seconds or so, slowly photos are added.
I try another aperture - nothing happens for 30 seconds. Then it starts at 30 photos and slowly adds them (maybe 10 - 20 photos per second, though it pauses every 2 -5 seconds, then adds more). Apparently the new aperture has 10 000+ photos. How long will it take to show all the photos that I have selected?

This is after it spent 24+ hrs importing the photos in the first place.
It's unusable. Perhaps it is due to the size of the catalog. In which case, it's unusable with catalogs above a certain size on moderately powerful systems.


Oh, and as it's searching the disk and populating the filter I chose, it's now using 3 gigs in memory and 20% CPU. LR would have accomplished this within 10 seconds.
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Re: Using the catalog with filters is slow and inconsistent
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 01:03:31 AM »

Yep.

That's one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't switch from LR - as I'm totally a catalog person.  Not only is that CO behavior happen with filters - but also any smart albums as well.  Simply... Just.. Unusable.  Period.

It's beyond me how they still haven't fixed such a basic usability flaw after so many years.  I just have no words to explain it anymore......
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Re: Using the catalog with filters is slow and inconsistent
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 08:57:31 AM »

I read somewhere that the problem could be that I selected 900px previews and C1 was scaling them for the screen size (4k).

It was recommended to use previews the size of your monitor or larger. I selected larger previews, let it alone for 2 days to regenerate them and have come back to see how it's going.

C1 was using 14 gigs of RAM and pretty much at a standstill. It had used the remaining 150 gb of storage space on my second SSD and had generated 40% of the previews.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong here. Perhaps you need large SSDswith 400gigs of space just for the previews and the latest hardware.

Or, perhaps C1 is not designed for large catalogs, which is my conclusion. Am happy to be proven wrong.
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Re: Using the catalog with filters is slow and inconsistent
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 11:16:11 AM »

Or, perhaps C1 is not designed for large catalogs, which is my conclusion. Am happy to be proven wrong.
Well it is supposed to be designed for large catalogues. Looks like some proof is needed :-) What does support say on the matter?
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