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bryanh2

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Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« on: June 07, 2018, 09:37:57 PM »

Hey,

Has anyone got any experience with adhesive backed photo paper? I'll looking for a satin or lustre with pressure sensitive adhesive on the back. Does anyone know any companies that have this, preferably in the EU/UK?

Thanks,
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2018, 04:25:43 AM »

How strong an adhesive do you need and in what paper sizes?  I don't know what the availability is in the UK but Breathing Color sells a product called Photo Peel Adhesive Vinyl that might meet your needs.  Image quality is pretty good but any texture in the surface you are adhering too will show through the vinyl.  And there are removable 4x6" papers based on the Post-It adhesive that are available but I've never used them.  I haven't seen any permanent adhesive high quality papers which is surprising since you would think that would be a popular product.  I hope somebody else can contribute a suggestion for that.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 08:37:09 AM »

Thanks for the reply. I'm look for a permanent adhesive on 17 or 24 inch rolls. I was hoping to find photo paper instead of vinyl but I'll check out your suggestion thanks.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2018, 09:16:59 AM »

Not an answer to your actual question but another option that may be worth considering is 3M Photo Mount spray adhesive (the one in the red can). Strong, instant bond and permanent.
I've used it successfully on many types of photo paper, gloss, satin, matt and fine art.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2018, 09:19:04 AM »

Inkpress makes a luster RC paper with an adhesive: http://www.inkpresspaper.com/profiles.asp?PaperID=55

but I don't know if it's available in the UK or not.

There's always Phototex and its various clones including one sold by Innova Art in the UK: https://www.innovaart.com/innova-art-products/youtac-textile-aqueous-compatible/

but it's not a "paper" per say but more of a woven cloth.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2018, 09:20:11 AM »

What substrate are you going to me mounting to?
Both gator board and foam board come with adhesive attached, much easier in my opinion.

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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2018, 10:00:31 AM »

Not an answer to your actual question but another option that may be worth considering is 3M Photo Mount spray adhesive (the one in the red can). Strong, instant bond and permanent.
I've used it successfully on many types of photo paper, gloss, satin, matt and fine art.

I've had bad experiences with the print buckling after a while especially if near any heat.

Inkpress makes a luster RC paper with an adhesive: http://www.inkpresspaper.com/profiles.asp?PaperID=55

but I don't know if it's available in the UK or not.

There's always Phototex and its various clones including one sold by Innova Art in the UK: https://www.innovaart.com/innova-art-products/youtac-textile-aqueous-compatible/

but it's not a "paper" per say but more of a woven cloth.
I came across the Inkpress one before but couldn't source it in the EU/UK

What substrate are you going to me mounting to?
Both gator board and foam board come with adhesive attached, much easier in my opinion.

Yeah I reckon you're right. I'm looking to mount to Gator board or Pvc foamboard/Foamex but I can't seem to find suppliers with self adhesive  version in EU/UK either.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2018, 10:29:40 AM »

I use this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/46514-REG/Scotch_56816_Mounting_Adhesive_Roll.html

which works well for small and medium size photos. But again finding it in the UK may be a challenge.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2018, 01:49:14 AM »

I have bought a secondhand Drytac Jetmounter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gjazc_L0no&list=PLB930A6BF6A76B3D0
A very versatile machine with a lot of options.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2018, 07:33:51 AM »

Do a search for self adhesive foamboard in the Internet and you should find some suppliers.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2018, 10:39:09 AM »

For years I trawled eBay, looking for a used dry mount press so I could mount prints on gator. A friend bought a used roller laminator, tried some adhesive backed gator and I was hooked. So much easier than anything else. Excellent results.

www.foamboardsounce.com
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2018, 02:32:33 PM »

For years I trawled eBay, looking for a used dry mount press so I could mount prints on gator. A friend bought a used roller laminator, tried some adhesive backed gator and I was hooked. So much easier than anything else. Excellent results.

www.foamboardsounce.com

Yeah thats really what I want to use but its very hard to find outside of the US
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2018, 04:24:52 PM »

Yeah thats really what I want to use but its very hard to find outside of the US

I don't understand why that's so hard to find. Hotpress was a UK company now owned by Drytac Ltd., Neschen is in Germany etc. Look around, they're there.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2018, 05:35:44 PM »

I don't understand why that's so hard to find. Hotpress was a UK company now owned by Drytac Ltd., Neschen is in Germany etc. Look around, they're there.

Plenty of Hotpress equipment but I can't find self adhesive gatorboard or foamex.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 07:34:37 AM »

Plenty of Hotpress equipment but I can't find self adhesive gatorboard or foamex.
Did a quick Gatorboard w/adhesive search in the UK and 6 came up on the first page.
Ebay UK
Amazon UK
Jackson Art UK
Graphics Direct UK
Wessex Pictures UK
Paper Spectrum UK
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2018, 04:33:47 AM »

I bought a 24 "roll x 30m. 170gr. Self-adhesive satin paper at Iversen Company in Denmark.
The cost without tax around d.kr. 1000, -.
Believe that Iversen is well on sending to the UK  ;)

www.iversen.company
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2018, 05:39:56 AM »

Did a quick Gatorboard w/adhesive search in the UK and 6 came up on the first page.
Ebay UK
Amazon UK
Jackson Art UK
Graphics Direct UK
Wessex Pictures UK
Paper Spectrum UK

Thanks for the help but unfortunately none of those sell Self Adhesive Gatorboard. A few sell cut sizes of gatorboard and the rest self adhesive foamcore board.

I bought a 24 "roll x 30m. 170gr. Self-adhesive satin paper at Iversen Company in Denmark.
The cost without tax around d.kr. 1000, -.
Believe that Iversen is well on sending to the UK  ;)

www.iversen.company

Ah brilliant, do you know the name of the paper, I can't seem to find it on their website. Thanks
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2018, 11:37:00 AM »

you dont have to buy self adhesive boards, buy normal boards and a roll of mount film, you can run it onto the board using you laminator

the plus side to this is you dont have to use cheap paper (which generally self adhesive stuff is) its not generally for better quality photography


self adhesive foam board i buy in 8*4ft sheets in 5mm and buy in boxes of 20 sheets at a time

foamex i buy 8*4 sheets and apply my own mount film to them
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2018, 01:58:42 AM »

Based on my own bad experience with mounting prints on Foamcore board I would strongly recommend not using 3M's photo mount adhesive.  My prints started to detach themselves from the board after only a short time.

After consulting with 3M it appears that the Foamcore board gives off a chemical which reacts with the adhesive causing it to degrade.  This process is enhanced by heat and humidity.

Instead 3M recommended using their carpet adhesive which comes in a similar spray-can to the photo mount.
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Re: Adhesive Backed Photo Paper
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2018, 07:41:26 AM »

Based on my own bad experience with mounting prints on Foamcore board I would strongly recommend not using 3M's photo mount adhesive.  My prints started to detach themselves from the board after only a short time.

After consulting with 3M it appears that the Foamcore board gives off a chemical which reacts with the adhesive causing it to degrade.  This process is enhanced by heat and humidity.

Instead 3M recommended using their carpet adhesive which comes in a similar spray-can to the photo mount.
No one should be using Foamcore anyway as it always warps. Gatorboard is preferred as it doesn't warp.

Interesting info about the carpet adhesive though, thanks.
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