Ultimate Point and shoot?

[rethmeier]

Will this be the ultimate Point and Shoot?


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092604sigmadp1.asp

[augg]

When I think of point and shoot I think of my old black hexar with the f2 lens. Why doesn't anyone make a digital point and shoot with a fast lens? (Besides the canon g5 which I do like but where are the current fast lens cameras?

dan

[Andrew Teakle]

Image quality may be superb, ergonomics sublime, size and weight unobtrusive, but I would never buy a camera with a fixed focal length and no way to change lenses. Who shoots at 28mm exclusively? Even a 3x zoom (28-84mm) would increase its usability a million-fold. Why waste all those development resources on a camera that is so restricted in its usability.  

As you might guess, I was not brought up in the Leica rangefinder school of street photography. I started with 35mm and a couple of zooms, so I've never been restricted in focal length.

[ericstaud]

"but I would never buy a camera with a fixed focal length and no way to change lenses. Who shoots at 28mm exclusively? Even a 3x zoom (28-84mm) would increase its usability a million-fold. Why waste all those development resources on a camera that is so restricted in its usability."


I took the Nikon 28mm F1.4 out of town for a weekend.  Best vacation photos I ever made.  Also went to a friends wedding that weekend and shot 100 pictures with the 1.4.  The couple was blown away by the results compared to the pro wedding shooter they hired.

Of course I usually take 2 cameras and 3 lenses everywhere I go.  But I rarely get better results than I did that 3 day weekend.

I really want to buy a DP1.  My only question is about High ASA shooting.  If it excels at 800 or 1600 It might temper the F4 limitation.

-Eric

[Nill Toulme]

Personally, I think the ultimate P&S for the time being is going to be a 400D with Sigma's just-announced 18-200 OS (image stabilized) zoom.  I want one.

Nill
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[cgf]

Will this be the ultimate Point and Shoot?
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About the same size as my LX1 but with a DSLR-sized sensor and a fixed lens? They can't make this fast enough for me! My wallet feels lighter already

[dbell]

Will this be the ultimate Point and Shoot?
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With that lens, it's not MY ultimate P&S. I do most of my best work with "normal" or short telephoto lenses. In 35mm format, 28 is too short for me. I don't necessarily need a zoom but I wouldn't be happy with nothing but a wide lens.  

I also want decent manual controls and an optical viewfinder (although those are less critical to me than a lens that suits what I do). When I was shooting film, a K1000 or FM2 with a fast 50mm lens was just about my perfect "walking around" camera.


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Daniel Bell