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drralph

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Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:18:40 AM »

I am preparing to get started with roll printing on my Epson P800.  I read that loading roll paper can be finicky, and the leading edge needs to be perfectly square.  Is a good rotary trimmer a necessary tool when working with roll paper?  If so, the Rotatrim models seem favorably regarded on this board.  I am also thinking a de-roller might be a worthwhile investment.
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 10:17:47 AM »

I use a Rotatrim Mastercut II. It's a bit expensive, but well worth it. Very precise and robust.
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 10:41:30 AM »

I use a Rotatrim Mastercut II. It's a bit expensive, but well worth it. Very precise and robust.

Mark, is it essential for working with roll paper?
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 10:46:43 AM »

I don't have a rotary trimmer, nor am I bothered by loading rolls cut with a utility knife.  Neither my Epson 9800 nor my HPZ3200 care about loading these definitely non-square 44" wide cuts. 

I feel no need for a de-roller, either.  I use an empty media cardboard tube.

What trimming I do is easily accomplished with my Logan matte cutter - a more versatile tool, IMHO.

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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 11:03:15 AM »

Mark, is it essential for working with roll paper?

No, not essential - what Peter McLennan suggested of course also works. It's a matter of taste. Personally, I find such a trimmer easier to achieve precision with than a utility knife, but that just means Peter has more manual dexterity than I do! :-)
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 12:01:04 PM »

FWIW, if you don't mind a novice perspective:  I'm new to the world of printing.  I picked up a P800 with roller, and decided to try and do most of my printing using roll paper because it seems like a more cost effective way to go.  I also picked up a trimmer, a Dahle 554, which you could argue blew away any arguments about cost effectiveness, but I digress.  I tried this setup for the first time this weekend, and the trimmer honestly makes the whole process very nice and convenient.  For me, where my goal is to try and print any/all sizes from roll paper, I currently don't see how I'd get along without a trimmer and still enjoy the process.  My $0.02.
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 12:11:03 PM »

When I moved from a 4880 (auto cut) to the P800 (manual cut), I simply employ the ruled cutting mat, a 40" ruler and a utility knife to trim the ends of the roll. It hasn't complained yet.

The mat, knife and ruler are also employed when trimming and mounting the prints produced.

Alan
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 02:34:00 PM »

Sounds like I can hold off on either a trimmer/mat cutter or a de-roller, and get my feet wet in the roll printing process.  If I find further motivation to acquire any of these tools/toys, I can do so later.

Thanks all for your input!
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2018, 04:56:16 PM »

Sounds like I can hold off on either a trimmer/mat cutter or a de-roller, and get my feet wet in the roll printing process.  If I find further motivation to acquire any of these tools/toys, I can do so later.

Thanks all for your input!

I think there's a good chance at some point you will want to consider adding a trimmer to your equipment list.  I can't imagine my studio without one, but I suppose it depends a great deal on your volume and your process.

Regarding your P800, I think once you get your paper going you'll be okay with uneven cutoffs, but the issue will be if you have to reload the paper.  If you do, having square ends may become more important, and I doubt a cut off end will suffice.  You may find yourself removing the roll and re-cutting the ends.  Also keep in mind that not all printers are the same.  While some printers may accept less than square edges, others may not.  From what I've read, the P800 may be more sensitive to non-square ends.  But I have no experience with that model, so I really wish you the best.  On my iPF6450, I periodically have to re-trim the ends of a roll...kind of a pain, but it doesn't happen often.

Patrick



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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 05:03:23 PM »

No, not essential - what Peter McLennan suggested of course also works. It's a matter of taste. Personally, I find such a trimmer easier to achieve precision with than a utility knife, but that just means Peter has more manual dexterity than I do! :-)

Not necessarily! :)

 I use the Logan matte cutter for most of what Rotatrims will do.  I only deign to go full manual when I have to.
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2018, 10:28:38 PM »

I LOVE my rotary trimmer. Wouldn't give it up.

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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2018, 10:43:22 PM »

I use a Logan matte cutter -- but really think I should get a rotary trimmer, the matte cutter sort of does the job, but just sort of...
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Re: Rotary Trimmer Necessary with Roll Paper?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 11:14:40 PM »

I use a Logan matte cutter ... the matte cutter sort of does the job, but just sort of...

Agreed.  But I don't think I need both.  For lightweight materials, a rotary cutter is convenient and precise, but I think it'd struggle with foam core. My Logan handles it with ease.  Art boards and Gator, too.  Thank goodness we have such choice.
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