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Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« on: January 09, 2018, 02:03:27 pm »

Hi all, my first post here. I decided to take the plunge into printing (I decided photography by itself was not an expensive enough hobby - lol). I ordered the Epson P800 and it’s on it’s way here (so excited!) I have a question about AdobeRGB I’m hoping you can help clarify.

I have a nice, calibrated, monitor (NEC PA322UHD) that came with a colorimeter. I have the monitor set to sRGB. I have PS also set to sRGB working space, even though the files themselves are typically ProPhotoRGB (RAW files coming from LR).  I didn’t do much printing before and just shared online, so these settings seemed appropriate.

Now that I’ll be printing, I’m wondering if I should change my color space settings. Is that a necessary step for getting color matched output?

And if I do, where are all the places I should make that change? I can switch my monitor to AdobeRGB. I can switch the PS working space to AdobeRGB. Am I missing anything? Do I need to change something in Windows settings too?

Also, if I switch my monitor to AdobeRGB, does that mean I’m now viewing web content not in the intended working space? (That seems annoying to have to switch back and forth...)

I hope my question makes sense, and thanks in advance for your insights. I’m excited about this new chapter in my hobby. Holler if you’ve got good advice for a newbie like me! :)

Cheers,
Joe


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Re: Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 07:42:14 pm »

Yes, my advice is to train yourself by watching the Camera to Print tutorials on this website.
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Re: Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 08:46:30 pm »

sRGB urban legend & myths Part 2

In this 17 minute video, I'll discuss some more sRGB misinformation and cover:
When to use sRGB and what to expect on the web and mobile devices
How sRGB doesn't insure a visual match without color management, how to check
The downsides of an all sRGB workflow
sRGB's color gamut vs. "professional" output devices
The future of sRGB and wide gamut display technology
Photo print labs that demand sRGB for output

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/sRGBMythsPart2.mp4
Low resolution on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvVUL1gWVs
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Re: Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 05:21:53 pm »

Thanks, Mark and Andrew.  I checked out the videos you recommended, and they were helpful.  I was limiting my display's gamut to sRGB, but decided to open it up to native gamut (closer to AdobeRGB), and I re-calibrated, and that updated my display profile.

I want to spot check something with you: a lot of time was spent on explaining setting the correct working space in PS (and it's a central piece of the Color Management Workflow Chart PDF), but this dialog/setting seems largely irrelevant to photographers.  Since a digital camera RAW workflow in PS would almost always start with opening via ACR or LR, the color space you'll be editing in is already set (by ACR/LR, in my case, ProPhotoRGB) and doesn't change when you load it in PS (assuming you haven't changed the default 'preserve embedded profile' setting).  My understanding is the Color Settings dialog only applies to new documents created in PS (say, via File->New).  Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks.
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Re: Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 05:46:03 pm »

I want to spot check something with you: a lot of time was spent on explaining setting the correct working space in PS (and it's a central piece of the Color Management Workflow Chart PDF), but this dialog/setting seems largely irrelevant to photographers.  Since a digital camera RAW workflow in PS would almost always start with opening via ACR or LR, the color space you'll be editing in is already set (by ACR/LR, in my case, ProPhotoRGB) and doesn't change when you load it in PS (assuming you haven't changed the default 'preserve embedded profile' setting).  My understanding is the Color Settings dialog only applies to new documents created in PS (say, via File->New).  Is there something I'm missing?


Now see:
Photoshop CC's Color Settings & the Convert to Profile and Assign Profile command.

This new video covers everything you thought you wanted to know about the Photoshop Color Setting dialog. It also discusses the Convert to Profile Command and the Assign Profile Command. Photoshop CC 2017 is used in this video and it updates the video on this subject I Published on June 28, 2012.

High Rez: http://digitaldog.net/files/PhotoshopColorSettings.mp4
Low Rez (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaHOGDK5OI
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Re: Proper hardware/software settings for AdobeRGB workflow
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 11:58:44 am »

Now see:
Photoshop CC's Color Settings & the Convert to Profile and Assign Profile command.

This new video covers everything you thought you wanted to know about the Photoshop Color Setting dialog. It also discusses the Convert to Profile Command and the Assign Profile Command. Photoshop CC 2017 is used in this video and it updates the video on this subject I Published on June 28, 2012.

High Rez: http://digitaldog.net/files/PhotoshopColorSettings.mp4
Low Rez (YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaHOGDK5OI

Thanks again.  This confirms for me my earlier statement. 
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