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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2018, 01:54:13 PM »

Just ignore mediafrost, they always put random specs ASAP just to be bookmarked.

I tested it thoroughly, and my findings are the results of measurements - here’s the copy-paste translation (sorry for autotranslation mistakes):

„During  the weekend I had a new, eagerly awaited successor to the excellent and proven PA272W. The monitor does not yet have support in the SpectraView II and MultiProfiler software, I'm not sure how much its firmwares were, so for now I share some preliminary insights.

PANEL

PA271Q has a 10-bit Panasonic IPS panel with W-LED PFS backlight and OCF, with native contrast 1500:1 and maximum luminance of 400cd / m². The use of red phosphor PFS allowed to obtain a slightly larger color gamut - virtually 100% of sRGB and aRGB, with a color space volume of 120% AdobeRGB (1.4 million ΔE³). OCF effectively eliminates the black leaking at higher viewing angle, with a slight violet tint visible under the extreme sharp angle (unnoticeable when working straight ahead), without affecting comfort and aesthetics.

The panel has very good native uniformity - peak luminance errors when the DUC is switched off, reach 10%, the chrominance error is unnoticeable (peak error below 2DE). The panel finish is typical for NEC, a supersatin diffuser that gives a clear, sharp image.

FUNCTIONALITY

Like its predecessors, PA271Q is equipped with a SpectraView Engine with an autocorrecting sensor that corrects the color and brightness of the backlight in real time. The x, y, Y co-ordinates measured by the sensor are displayed in the OSD menu of the monitor. The measurement deviation of the autorecutor senor in relation to the i1D3 measurement was 0.4ΔE, ie below the measurement error of this colorimeter. After connecting the i1D3 sensor to the USB port, it is possible to automatically recalibrate and validate the monitor. Linearity traditionally in the PA series is factory set to the point.
The monitor is equipped with a programmable 3DLUT, there are up to 10 programmable presets (in the menu you can choose the number of presets displayed in the range of 5-10). Factory presets have been supplemented with the latest implementations of HDR standards. The videographic functions have also been supplemented with the possibility of displaying a UHD / 4K signal scaled to 2.5K and displaying markers.

BUILD QUALITY

According to current trends, the monitor has a slimmer casing and tactile OSD menu support with convex selected fields. The monitor is, however, surprisingly heavy, solid, made of pleasantly matte finished high-quality material, mounted on a rotating foot with height adjustment, tilting and pivot function. The monitor has two USB3 inputs, three USB3 outputs, one USB service port for connecting the sensor and firmware update, USB-C, mDP, 2xDP, 2xHDMI, and LAN outputs. Contrary to the prevailing fashion, the monitor is solidly and meticulously packed in a right-sized box, no less than in the case of PA272W (most likely due to the large mass of the display).

SUMMARY

PA271Q with SpectraView II software and the i1D3 sensor is parametrically, qualitatively and functionally in every respect the equivalent of EIZO CG277+CG2730. In the context of the expected price of this model, and lowered price of new hood it will be a bargain ;)

I'm still not sure it will do 24fps like the Eizo though...  But that might not be critical if you can set your decklink card to 30fps or 60fps output.  After all you will be color correcting the movie, but not actually watching it for pleasure.
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2018, 07:32:53 PM »

Thanks for the info, Czornyj.

Any idea if they have a 30" 16:10 (ideally) in mind?
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2018, 09:34:08 AM »

Thanks for the info, Czornyj.

Any idea if they have a 30" 16:10 (ideally) in mind?

They still offer PA302W, but I haven't heard if it will be repleaced by any new model. There's a small demand for 30" displays, and 30" 16:10 panels are expensive - that's the cause Eizo stopped offering 30" long time ago. The alternative is PA322UHD which is very good (I use it personally), with nice OCF, but only 1000:1 CR.

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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2018, 09:48:38 AM »

They still offer PA302W, but I haven't heard if it will be repleaced by any new model. There's a small demand for 30" displays, and 30" 16:10 panels are expensive - that's the cause Eizo stopped offering 30" long time ago. The alternative is PA322UHD which is very good (I use it personally), with nice OCF, but only 1000:1 CR.

Do you prefer the PA322UHD over the PA302W for reasons of the higher resolution, or something else?

I do like the 30" 16:10 form factor, but as you allude to, options are limited. Thinking about a PA302W, but I'm notorious for buying stuff just before it's lifecycle is about to expire, and not without regret.
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2018, 04:43:28 PM »

Do you prefer the PA322UHD over the PA302W for reasons of the higher resolution, or something else?

I do like the 30" 16:10 form factor, but as you allude to, options are limited. Thinking about a PA302W, but I'm notorious for buying stuff just before it's lifecycle is about to expire, and not without regret.

I swiched from 30” 3090WQXi that I loved and worked many years - but higher resolution and wider work space gave me much higher comfort and efficiency at work (graphic design, fine art printing and photography). Additionally OCF is also a nice aesthetic feature ;)

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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2018, 12:39:24 PM »

I swiched from 30” 3090WQXi that I loved and worked many years - but higher resolution and wider work space gave me much higher comfort and efficiency at work (graphic design, fine art printing and photography). Additionally OCF is also a nice aesthetic feature ;)

I have worked on site with an Eizo CG2430, and I own a NEC PA271W. I hook the Eizo to my laptop and have no custom profile for it, but it with it's self calibration is considerably more neutral and better contrast, than my i1 Display Pro / Spectraview II calibrated/profiled NEC. It gives me monitor envy.

If I want that Eizo visual quality from a new NEC, do you think the PA322UHD would get me there, or best to wait for the PA271Q?
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2018, 12:51:10 PM »

I have worked on site with an Eizo CG2430, and I own a NEC PA271W. I hook the Eizo to my laptop and have no custom profile for it, but it with it's self calibration is considerably more neutral and better contrast, than my i1 Display Pro / Spectraview II calibrated/profiled NEC. It gives me monitor envy.

If I want that Eizo visual quality from a new NEC, do you think the PA322UHD would get me there, or best to wait for the PA271Q?

Having PA271Q (1500:1) next to my PA322UHD (1000:1) I haven't seen a significant difference regarding neutrality and contrast. PA271W has heavy matted diffuser (that I personally hate), which introduces clouding/sparcling and is more prone to flare, that lowers apparent contrast, sharpness and clarity of the image. So I think that super-satin diffuser and OCF of PA322UHD should get you there in 90% of cases, only very dark scenes may look better on PA271Q. But frankly I’m a fan of larger UHD displays ;)
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2018, 12:55:43 PM »

Thanks Czornyj.
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2018, 12:51:02 PM »

Czornyj, Any info on when the PA271Q might be available in the USA?
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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2018, 10:35:41 AM »

Here's further information on the PA271Q, with (US pricing) from NEC:

https://www.necdisplay.com/p/PA271Q-bk-sv

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Re: Upgrade to Eizo?
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2018, 12:07:16 PM »

Here's further information on the PA271Q, with (US pricing) from NEC:

https://www.necdisplay.com/p/PA271Q-bk-sv

Cool, thanks
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