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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2017, 05:43:57 AM »

Very, very good. I learned a thing or two, very helpful tips, at least at the stage I am in. Mr. Cramer has the ability (or gift) to explain and show things in simple and easily understandable terms. I am fighting Dan Margulisí books right now, definitely more difficult to understand. Please, do more of such Ąeasyď, but efficient videos with Mr. Cramer. Many thanks!
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2017, 11:33:33 AM »

Sorry but where is the file mentioned in the second video?

Thank you and regards

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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2017, 02:32:22 PM »

go to the video page for the Charlie Cramer videos . . . . HERE

Then scroll down the page in the right-hand column where the ads are and right above the Rantatorials you will see course documents.  the link is there.

I'll also put a link in the article with the video later today.
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2017, 05:24:49 PM »

In the summer of 2016 I spent a long weekend at one of Charlie's workshops in Santa Clara.  First rate printing workshop and first rate instruction from Charlie and Rex.  This video series has been a reminder of all of the information presented that weekend and it has been well presented.  Considering attending one of Charlie's Alumni Workshops to try to learn more.  Very educational and a lot of personal attention from Charlie.  A very good value.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2017, 03:40:09 PM »

 :)
Kevin/Charles - thank you for a very informative video series - your suggestions/tips around viewing/printing in LR are very helpful (I tried the white background and it really made a difference in how I see the image!).

Kevin - keep up the excellent work - very much enjoy your site, and listened to many of your recommendations (including the review of the ImageProGraf Pro1000 printer, which I absolutely love! The prints are fantastic and the printer is very easy to use).

Best,
BB
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2017, 07:10:00 PM »

Going to clutter up this thread with one more compliment. Really enjoyed series with Charles Cramer. Nicely done!
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2017, 06:42:54 PM »

Excellent video with lots of useful information.

Concerning the white surround to get the print density correct, to what extent is this because we choose to mat prints with white?  Is white mat optimum?  Maybe neutral gray is better?

You have not yet discussed the lighting of prints.  I noticed that Cramer had track lights set up for his print displays.  I hope you will provide some guidance on specific lighting solutions he uses to display his prints.

Dave
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2017, 04:43:02 AM »

Excellent ! For years people have been saying that Charlie's workshops are the very best for anyone aspiring to improve their printing.  Alas, time and distance got in the way though I manages to spend a few minutes with Charlie when he came to the UK in 2016.  Now it feels like a Cramer workshop has landed on my doorstep courtesy of LuLa.  Thanks to Kevin  and Charlie for this though I would still like to attend one of Charlie's workshops one day.  In the meantime this will do very nicely.
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2018, 04:59:52 PM »

My interest was short lived, as I had neither computing power or patience for the processing time (I was working with 500MB film scans and a computer with 2GB of RAM).

Remember that you can always ease the work by splitting the image file to smaller pieces, work each piece individually and then combine all back to one.
But you can't do that with the raw, you need to use something better like TIFF.


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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2018, 11:53:44 PM »

Dave,

I like to evaluate my prints using the lighting they will most likely be viewed under.  In my experience most galleries and other display areas use tungsten/halogen bulbs.  Their color temperature is typically 2800 Kelvin, and so that is what I use in my studio.  I find bulbs closer to 5000K  to be much too blue.  Over 30 years of having exhibitions in various places, I have never been disappointed with how my prints looked when I evaluated them under light of approximately 2800K.

With the advent of Leds,  though,  this may change, and I would expect to see temperatures of around 3400K becoming more common.

In my studio, I have a long shelf with track lights every 18 inches to evenly illuminate different size prints.  This shelf is one of THE most important things in making good prints!  Having a long shelf allows me to put up prints, and then live with them for awhile.  As I said in the video,  I need time to properly evaluate my prints.  Seeing them over multiple days is even better.

I switched to Leds  a few years ago.  Iím delighted with the Vivid series made by www.soraa.com.  I use the 7.5 watt, 2700K, 36 degree bulbs (36 degrees is their widest, allowing for even illumination). They have a Color Rendering Index of 95, with an excellent white.   From the height of a typical ceiling (8 feet), these 7.5 watt bulbs match what a 50 watt tungsten/halogen gave me, and provides a good level of light. The bulbs Iím using are Soraa # 00943.

Thanks to all for the kind words.
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 02:59:13 AM »

Charles, thanks for the very thorough reply about your lighting. I have been looking at high CRI leds so your reply was right on target. I will go with the lights you recommend. The shelf has been added to the plans too. Thanks again.
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 10:46:43 AM »

I will second the Soraa bulbs. Not only do I use them in my workshop, but I now use them throughout my home.  When I initially switched to LED, light never seemed right.  The Soraa is a huge win. I use the 18.5w 3000k PAR30 bulb, also with the high CRI, and high Red-CRI rating.

For daylight, I use a lamp from fullspectrumsolutions.com.  it is 5700k, also with a very high CRI.

These two light sources have allowed me to make excellent camera color profiles with a colorchecker and Lumariver profile designer,  to use in ACR.


Dave,

I like to evaluate my prints using the lighting they will most likely be viewed under.  In my experience most galleries and other display areas use tungsten/halogen bulbs.  Their color temperature is typically 2800 Kelvin, and so that is what I use in my studio.  I find bulbs closer to 5000K  to be much too blue.  Over 30 years of having exhibitions in various places, I have never been disappointed with how my prints looked when I evaluated them under light of approximately 2800K.

With the advent of Leds,  though,  this may change, and I would expect to see temperatures of around 3400K becoming more common.

In my studio, I have a long shelf with track lights every 18 inches to evenly illuminate different size prints.  This shelf is one of THE most important things in making good prints!  Having a long shelf allows me to put up prints, and then live with them for awhile.  As I said in the video,  I need time to properly evaluate my prints.  Seeing them over multiple days is even better.

I switched to Leds  a few years ago.  Iím delighted with the Vivid series made by www.soraa.com.  I use the 7.5 watt, 2700K, 36 degree bulbs (36 degrees is their widest, allowing for even illumination). They have a Color Rendering Index of 95, with an excellent white.   From the height of a typical ceiling (8 feet), these 7.5 watt bulbs match what a 50 watt tungsten/halogen gave me, and provides a good level of light. The bulbs Iím using are Soraa # 00943.

Thanks to all for the kind words.
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2018, 01:28:12 PM »

Is there a part 4?
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Re: New Article and Videos - Shooting With The Master Charles Cramer Part 3
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2018, 01:35:47 PM »

Yes, there will be several more Printing videos that I am currently working on, then a real aural treat of Charlie at his grand piano and a final wrap with Kevin.

There is enough material for at least two, possibly three more parts. Likely will take another couple of months editing ))

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