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Fiery color profiler suite?
« on: December 18, 2017, 05:28:34 pm »

I just bought a used efi es-2000 spectrophotometer for use in creating offsets for my iOne display pro  (creating 3D display LUTS for video color correction).

It comes with a license for the Fiery Color Profiler Suite. 

How is this software for creating printer profiles?  Anyone have experience with it?
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Re: Fiery color profiler suite?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 03:48:07 am »

How is this software for creating printer profiles?  Anyone have experience with it?
I've only made a couple of profiles (with ver 4.5.1) just to see if it's any good and the results were fine.
It's pretty easy to use as there aren't many choices that can be made for standard RGB icc profiles.
It's Achilles heal may be that you can only use a 918 patch target, although the range of paper sizes is better than X-Rite's i1Profiler. Maybe there's a way of adding other reference files, but I haven't investigated that yet. But if the profiles are OK for your uses, that's good enough.

There are also a lot of extras included; a profile inspector, editor, printer matching and verification utilities. One nice aspect is a very good pdf help file that helps understand what it all does. I've been meaning to spend a day learning more about it and working through the online tutorials and doing further tests.

Well worth a try given how good the ES-2000 spectro (aka i1Pro2) is.

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Re: Fiery color profiler suite?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 08:40:52 am »


...........Well worth a try given how good the ES-2000 spectro (aka i1Pro2) is.

Paul, once you've had a chance to explore it further, would be interesting to have your observations. At USD 3400, it does cost a bit more than twice the retail price of i1Photo Pro, so the key question is whether the additional USD 1800 is worthwhile. Not an issue for the O/P I suppose, but in general it may be.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 08:56:50 am »

Paul, once you've had a chance to explore it further, would be interesting to have your observations.
Will do.
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At USD 3400, it does cost a bit more than twice the retail price of i1Photo Pro, so the key question is whether the additional USD 1800 is worthwhile. Not an issue for the O/P I suppose, but in general it may be.
You might recall earlier this year in October the discussion about this spectro as they were, and still are, being offered on eBay as excellent prices. I got mine for UKP320 (less than US$400)  brand new.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 09:08:23 am »

...........You might recall earlier this year in October the discussion about this spectro as they were, and still are, being offered on eBay as excellent prices. I got mine for UKP320 (less than US$400)  brand new.

OK, but their software alone is USD 2300 - so one would still end-up paying about USD 2700 for the combo, which is about USD 1100 more than i1PhotoPro with the i1Pro2 spectro. Hence the same question maintains - would the incremental cost be worth any incremental value?
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 09:43:40 am »

OK, but their software alone is USD 2300
So I got a VERY good deal then.

Anything to do with commercial RIPs seems hideously expensive. The ES-2000 is a package primarily aimed at setting up RIPs and commercial presses. The icc profiling function seems a little 'tacked on' to the rest of the package.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 11:12:39 am »

Thanks for the replies.  I guess it helps a little bit.  I paid $450 for it, so maybe I over paid.  I don't think mine has ever been used to make printer profiles, just offset matrixes for display profiles... 

I will check it all out... as soon as I get my printer unclogged... :(

Happy holidays everyone!!!
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Re: Fiery color profiler suite?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 12:23:57 pm »

So I got a VERY good deal then.

Anything to do with commercial RIPs seems hideously expensive. The ES-2000 is a package primarily aimed at setting up RIPs and commercial presses. The icc profiling function seems a little 'tacked on' to the rest of the package.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 07:10:32 am »

I Work with fiery rips weekly, and have created profiles using CPS since 2011.. That said, I only use i1Profiler since the black/grey engine i earlier CPS (before 4.7) is very very bad compared to competitive software.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 11:05:45 am »

I Work with fiery rips weekly, and have created profiles using CPS since 2011.. That said, I only use i1Profiler since the black/grey engine i earlier CPS (before 4.7) is very very bad compared to competitive software.

How is the CPS without using a RIP?  Just for RGB profiles?  Or did you only use it with RIPs?
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