Bye, Bye Lightroom perpetual licenses .... No Lightroom 7

[hogloff]

Those things are not databases.

No, but they are subscription services that you don't have access to once you stop the subscription...just like CC. But unlike the car that you lease, you still have your images when you stop your subscription to do whatever you want with them.

[digitaldog]

Those things are not databases.

Once you stop paying for LR subscription, the database keeps a running. Or it did with the last subscription product. Develop and Maps; not so much.

[digitaldog]

That's not part of Adobe's plan.  They're like the Roach Motel.  Once you go in, you can't get out.

Very funny. And ridiculous of course.

[digitaldog]

At this moment in time.  Remember "LR perpetual will always be available" - Tom Hogarty Product Manager LR.?  PSCS6?

So much for trusting that source of info.

[Mark D Segal]

Very funny. And ridiculous of course.

Reminds me of Col. Klink - "Very eenteresting......... but foolish?" :-)

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Once you stop paying for LR subscription, the database keeps a running. Or it did with the last subscription product. Develop and Maps; not so much.

While true, wouldn't it render one's prior Develop work useless? Or is it still possible to export to e.g. TIFF with the existing (frozen) develop settings?

Cheers,
Bart

[ButchM]

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Or is it still possible to export to e.g. TIFF with the existing (frozen) develop settings?

Yes, you can print, export, etc. like always. You can even perform basic subtle tweaks with the Quick Develop controls in the Library Module. You can no longer import or use the Develop or Map modules. Not sure if you can create new slideshows or books but you can export and print existing works and even Web galleries.

[john beardsworth]

Yes, you can print, export, etc. like always. You can even perform basic subtle tweaks with the Quick Develop controls in the Library Module. You can no longer import or use the Develop or Map modules. Not sure if you can create new slideshows or books but you can export and print existing works and even Web galleries.

You can still import new images. What you can't do is use Develop, Map, or sync with LRMobile.

Slideshow, books etc will work.

[ButchM]

You can still import new images.

Sorry, thought I read somewhere that Import was turned off too. Very interesting ...

[Manoli]

While true, wouldn't it render one's prior Develop work useless? Or is it still possible to export to e.g. TIFF with the existing (frozen) develop settings?

Pre Lightroom Classic,
- if you terminated a subscription, just the Develop module was disabled , the other Print, Book, Library etc modules all worked.
- You could export TIFF's and render all your 'Develop' work.
- Now, apparently, they'll disable the Maps module too (need confirmation on this one ?)
- What you can, could (and I 'm guessing) will still be able to do is use 'Edit In' (available with a right-click in both the Develop and Library modules. All your Lr plug-ins will still function ( exporting files to external editors as set in Preferences)

[john beardsworth]

Pre Lightroom Classic,
- if you terminated a subscription, just the Develop module was disabled , the other Print, Book, Library etc modules all worked.
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- Now, apparently, they'll disable the Maps module too (need confirmation on this one ?)

No, Maps has been disabled too since 6.0 . The only things you can't do are go into Develop, go into Maps, or sync to/from LrMobile. Everything else should work.

[David Mantripp]

No, Maps has been disabled too since 6.0 . The only things you can't do are go into Develop, go into Maps, or sync to/from LrMobile. Everything else should work.

So does Quick Develop work, then?

[john beardsworth]

Yes, as do presets, David. Notice the emphasis I put on "go into", and then just see how much latitude Adobe are giving people.

[David Mantripp]

No, Maps has been disabled too since 6.0 . The only things you can't do are go into Develop, go into Maps, or sync to/from LrMobile. Everything else should work.

So does Quick Develop work, then?

[john beardsworth]

I did say yes.

[StephaneB]

Pre Lightroom Classic,
- if you terminated a subscription, just the Develop module was disabled , the other Print, Book, Library etc modules all worked.
- You could export TIFF's and render all your 'Develop' work.
- Now, apparently, they'll disable the Maps module too (need confirmation on this one ?)
- What you can, could (and I 'm guessing) will still be able to do is use 'Edit In' (available with a right-click in both the Develop and Library modules. All your Lr plug-ins will still function ( exporting files to external editors as set in Preferences)

"Edit in" is also disabled when the subscription ends.

[Alan Goldhammer]

"Edit in" is also disabled when the subscription ends.

No surprise as that would prevent using an external photo editor and maintain the LR database feature for new images.

[john beardsworth]

"Edit in" is also disabled when the subscription ends.

I don't think that's true. Can you point to anywhere where it is documented?

[Mark D Segal]

According to this https://lightroomkillertips.com/happens-cancel-lightroom-cc-subscription/, nothing will work in the Develop Module and everything will work that is in the Library Module, which would presumably include "Edit In". But I couldn't find anything granular enough to specify what happens with "Edit In" when accessed from the Library Module. Maybe someone with experience of cancellation can join-in here. However, even if it does work, it's a crummy solution for people who don't want to bloat their drives with rendered files and need to go back to Photoshop or some such for editing their photos. Losing the elegance and convenience of the raw workflow would be a real downer for me. It would probably be preferable to convert them all to DNG and work in C1, if C1 will recognize all the stored adjustments in the DNG.

[john beardsworth]

Mark, the restriction is on going into the module. Edit In will work without doing so.

I'm pretty certain of this, and did test it for myself in the past. As I feel I know the answer, I'm not willing to test it again.