Thanks Tim, you are always very helpful. I have not printed this file, the reason being is that I think that I need to understand much better profiles and soft printing. Right now there is a huge difference between my monitor and my printer, actually between my monitor and a lot of other people's monitors. My NEC is extremely bright, I am at my office now and some of the details in the shadows look solid black. I bought a colormiter that would profile my scanner, my monitor and my printer. When I come back from vaction I will profile my system.