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Robert Roaldi

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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2017, 01:02:40 PM »

So split the difference, Robert, and just sort of agree with exceptions.

Excellent idea.
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2017, 03:13:39 PM »

I’m fine with killing off political “discussion” entirely here. The ‘nets are chock-a-block with outlets for ranting & chanting & posturing, which is what all this kerfuffle has descended to. One of my fav guitar sites made such a choice a few years ago, which resulted in a drastic decrease in jerkitude (the jerks bailed) and a corresponding increase in not only relevant but humane conversation.

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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2017, 03:33:18 PM »

Which it the cost and benefit of free speech. You can't just get the good part all the time. As Marilyn (that would be Monroe, for the Millennials) would say: “if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.”

Like where?

Where else I can discuss such things not with total, mostly anonymous strangers, but with real people who I got to know over the years reasonably well, from their photography, to their musings and writings about photography, from their professional history to their family history, forming a pretty good idea of who they are, and forming a respect for what they did in their life and with their life? Those are the people I am willing to listen to, engage with, exchange opinions, even if we disagree (especially if we disagree). And stay friends even if we politely disagree. Those who can not disagree politely, should be banned and the offending post removed. Not the thread.

If it was not clear from the above, I am strongly against removing whole threads and banning certain subjects.


Sorry, only just noticed that there was a question directed at me. Truth is I was just assuming that there are lots of places to discuss these things, but I don't actually know any because I have never sought them out. I guess others have answered in the meantime. It's a fair point to enjoy discussions with people you already know something about. I can't give you any advice about how to find any.

I understand your point about not liking the removal of threads or banning certain subjects. But this is a matter for the owners of the board to decide. They are in effect publishers, and like any other publisher they have final say on what they want to publish.
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2017, 03:34:15 PM »

It is not easy indeed. One suggestion could be to limit the number of posts per topic?
Please no. That's the kind of silliness found on the DPR forums with a silly 149 'arbitrary' limit to any thread.
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2017, 03:46:50 PM »

Like where?

Where else I can discuss such things not with total, mostly anonymous strangers, but with real people who I got to know over the years reasonably well ...
How about down at your local bar, after everybody has downed a few?
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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2017, 03:48:38 PM »

But be sure you're carrying.

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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2017, 05:55:37 PM »

A Private Facebook Group could be a good home for you and your LULA buddies.

There was a similar problem back in the day on Photosig during the Gulf war.  One solution by a bunch of us from both sides was to start a forum on Delphi and just go there to duke it, no holds bared.   It worked very well for a number of years but slowly faded away.  Interestingly, a number of us became RL friends and are still in contact and visit while we travel or we have get togethers.

For those of you looking for combat, consider this option.
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2017, 05:58:12 PM »

But be sure you're carrying.

Careful, or Chris will have to close Kevin's thread ;)

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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2017, 06:00:42 PM »

But be sure you're carrying.
It wouldn't be fair to the barkeep to bring your own sixpack.

Oh! You meant carrying something else!   ;)
Maybe that's what makes the Internet (slightly) safer than the local pub. The NRA hasn't yet figured out how to send bullets over the Internet.   8)
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2017, 06:58:53 PM »

But be sure you're carrying...
... a camera.
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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2017, 07:18:46 PM »

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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2017, 07:40:35 PM »

But be sure you're carrying.

... a camera.

Ahhh, but what camera?  If you thought the Trump threads were contentious . . .

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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2017, 07:58:54 PM »

Ahhh, but what camera?  If you thought the Trump threads were contentious . . .
ANY camera is better than no camera.  :P
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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2017, 09:59:31 PM »

Obviously, the best camera in a bar is a Nikkormat with a Spiratone 400 mm attached. Walk in with one of those and everyone else will show you respect.
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« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2017, 11:44:29 PM »

I’d carry one of those Spiratone-ish 420–800mm zooms. No need for paranoia when you can out-magnify the competition!

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2017, 04:07:15 AM »

Please no. That's the kind of silliness found on the DPR forums with a silly 149 'arbitrary' limit to any thread.

The number is up to the moderators, of course. What silliness is worse: 149 posts, or having threads that go on for months with hundreds of (mostly) useless posts after a while?

Another option would be for each thread to have a limited time span, say 2 months.

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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2017, 05:19:04 AM »

Except the "Touch Of Humor" thread. We would lose a lot of good jokes if it were limited only to 149 posts or 2 months in duration.

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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2017, 07:07:20 AM »

I have never paid any attention to the political and contentious threads here. I don't think they belong in a photography web site. I applaud Kevin's decision on this.
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« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2017, 10:54:04 AM »

Except the "Touch Of Humor" thread. We would lose a lot of good jokes if it were limited only to 149 posts or 2 months in duration.

Could always start another one...

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Re: *** CHANGES in the Coffee Corner ***
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2017, 11:43:40 AM »

Yes, I left the door ajar. I quote the new Coffee Corner header:

Inflammatory topics will be deleted at Moderator's discretion.


I hesitated on the Climate Change thread since it is generally civil. However the apparent opinion is that it too should go. Let's see what 24 hours brings.

And since that thread too is (intentionally?) taking a more strident political tone, it has been removed.
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