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Whitney Dunn

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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2017, 04:52:37 PM »

So they are sandbagging support for the Nikon D850 in Lightroom so as to be the showcase a Adobe Max? Then why not sit on ACR 9.12.1 until then?

The lack of D850 support doesnít make much sense. Even presuming they intend to announce a new Lightroom at Adobe Max, thereís no obvious reason to hold that support back now. The only three explanations I can think of are: thereís some technical problem with the D850 and LR; all the teamís resources are devoted to polishing the new program; and D850 support will be exclusive to the new program.

The first and second explanations donít seem particularly plausible, and would imply a poorly managed team, while the third would be absurdly customer hostile.
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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2017, 05:23:54 PM »

Have you tried LR Mobile on an iPad? Itís very good; IMHO a more efficient, effective program than LR for desktop.
If you seriously think that a 10" screen without effective colour management is better than a properly calibrated, colour managed desktop screen it's really not worth discussing anything else with you.
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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2017, 06:20:33 PM »

The lack of D850 support doesnít make much sense. Even presuming they intend to announce a new Lightroom at Adobe Max, thereís no obvious reason to hold that support back now. The only three explanations I can think of are: thereís some technical problem with the D850 and LR; all the teamís resources are devoted to polishing the new program; and D850 support will be exclusive to the new program.

The first and second explanations donít seem particularly plausible, and would imply a poorly managed team, while the third would be absurdly customer hostile.
Adobe tends to offer more than new camera support in a dot release; there are also bug fixes. And, of course, even adding new cameras requires almost a new install, although I think the last few times it has been patching rather than a full install. I may be wrong.

So, it's quite possible that Adobe doesn't see any utility in adding support for a new camera when they might have another version ready to roll out.

An historical example is this: Adobe didn't add support for the Nikon D7200 until the release of LR6. The release did follow much closer on the release of an ACR that processed those RAWS, but it has happened.

Tom
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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2017, 06:51:40 PM »

If you seriously think that a 10" screen without effective colour management is better than a properly calibrated, colour managed desktop screen it's really not worth discussing anything else with you.

More efficient and effective does not mean better. The desktop version is still the more capable one: colour and print management, direct integration with Photoshop, etc. But LR Mobile avoids some design pratfalls which have hobbled it from the beginning ó no modules, for one, and no awkward disjunction between files and collections, for another. Sync is integral, not bolted on. And LR Mobile seems more responsive, presumably ó and this is speculation on my part ó since it was first built for low powered devices and leverages newer technologies from Apple and Microsoft.

So yes, more efficient and effective. Combining those attributes with the full desktop capabilities would, in my mind, be ideal.
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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2017, 08:21:37 PM »


An historical example is this: Adobe didn't add support for the Nikon D7200 until the release of LR6. The release did follow much closer on the release of an ACR that processed those RAWS, but it has happened.

Tom

The only flaw with your example is the D7200 was indeed held over to Lr v6 ...but is was also held over to ACR v9 as well. ACR 9.12.1 was released on Sept. 6, 2017 with support for the D850. It is rare for Adobe to have such a split in release dates for ACR and Lr.
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Re: LR7 in beta?
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2017, 03:36:56 AM »

Regardless of the existence of a private beta for a completely new iteration ... something more than usual must be in the mix. Otherwise, where is the normal update for Lr to balance the scales with ACR 9.12.1?

Surely there is nothing in that updates that should rock the boat with Lightroom 6.x. I would think it would be rare for the addition of one new camera, four new lens profiles and color fixes for one camera would be the cause of such a delay. So it begs the question as why there has been such a relatively lengthy delay and no update for Lr.

Let's hope it's not another round of 'improvements' for the import process.  ::)

I'm a little worried that it might have something to do with this:

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