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Michael Erlewine

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The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« on: August 28, 2017, 06:07:36 PM »

Nikon D810, Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2017, 02:11:47 PM »

Try stack focussing and get the whole flower in focus. I love the flower but the fact that the whole back half of it is out of focus is annoying.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2017, 02:16:27 PM »

Try stack focussing and get the whole flower in focus. I love the flower but the fact that the whole back half of it is out of focus is annoying.

Sorry, that's a feature, not a problem.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2017, 08:24:09 PM »

DOF ,..for me is perfect.

My eye goes to two spots,... the flower is of course the what my eye settles on.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 09:27:55 AM »

DOF ,..for me is perfect.

I completely agree.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2017, 09:43:07 AM »

The OOF petal is what helps the stamen pop in the image. It's what makes it work. Get the whole thing in focus & it's just a sharp picture if a flower.

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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2017, 01:53:34 PM »

So going a step further, run a blurring filter over the closer in-focus petals?
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2017, 03:31:50 PM »

Not only isn't being out of focus a "feature", the bright green spot in the back ground is disturbing as well.

If the out of focus part of the flower were maybe not sharply in focus but at least closer to the focus of the front part, it wouldn't be such an annoying flaw in an otherwise beautiful flower.
There is nothing wrong with a nice crisp photo of a beautiful flower.

ALSO... the ghost of color behind the bud is another example of not really looking at the image and doing some minor composition before shooting. All of these things together make it a less than successful image.  There is just too much going on in the background.

It is basically just another image that COULD have been really great but it merely ok.

Try to move to the left, get rid of the bud and make the petals more consistent with each other and have the center stem be the focal point. The whole thing doesn't need to be "centered" in the frame but it does need to be less cluttered and disturbing to the eye.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 09:47:57 PM »

You are behaving like a bit of a know-it-all Framah. I like it for all the reasons you don't. The shallow depth of field is clearly better. The blob in the background takes it away from being just boring mono-tone and the bud on the left adds an element of surprise. This is all just my opinion of course, as is yours, yours.

Not only isn't being out of focus a "feature", the bright green spot in the back ground is disturbing as well.

If the out of focus part of the flower were maybe not sharply in focus but at least closer to the focus of the front part, it wouldn't be such an annoying flaw in an otherwise beautiful flower.
There is nothing wrong with a nice crisp photo of a beautiful flower.

ALSO... the ghost of color behind the bud is another example of not really looking at the image and doing some minor composition before shooting. All of these things together make it a less than successful image.  There is just too much going on in the background.

It is basically just another image that COULD have been really great but it merely ok.

Try to move to the left, get rid of the bud and make the petals more consistent with each other and have the center stem be the focal point. The whole thing doesn't need to be "centered" in the frame but it does need to be less cluttered and disturbing to the eye.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2017, 03:30:56 AM »

Meh, I tend to agree with Frameh. If the OP is boasting about the resolve power and sharpness of the lens - I agree. That lens looks like a seriously powerful tool.

I curate a group: https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/

Some of the guys that post there are very good with Macro.

You know I struggle with this image honestly - I guess for me the reason it doesn't work is I just don't know what I'd ever use it for. If it was focus stacked I'd find it more powerful in terms of complexity, depth, and clarity.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 01:31:23 PM »

We are now firmly in the world of individual aesthetic preferences.
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Re: The Zeiss Otus 85mm Close-Up
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2017, 01:32:33 PM »

We are now firmly in the world of individual aesthetic preferences.

We are. And mine is for shallow depth of field and no background blob. So there.  ;)

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