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Fast Driving
« on: July 20, 2017, 08:26:13 AM »

This incredible story at the police court in Namur, Belgium where a motorist had to appear for speeding.

The unusual part is that the driver was a 79 year old grandmother who was clocked in 2016 at 238 km/h in her Porsche Boxster GTS with 330 HP. At her age, Grandma was afraid of having her car keys and driver's license removed. Rather, it has gone off very well, she must pay only 1200 Euro fine and will lose her driving license for 45 days. 

First the police had to pinch themselves to make sure they were not dreaming: the identity card confirmed her date of birth in September 1937. Was she driving? Did she not cover someone to avoid the wrath of justice? "I was driving, I was doing a little lap and there, rolling on the E42, I was going back to La Louvière." Old lady sighed and explained, "That night, not finding sleep and not knowing how to sleep, I decided to go for a drive to get some fresh air." It was the first time, she said, that it happened to her. "I did not realize that I was cruising at this speed, no worries, I agree to pay the transaction that the prosecution will propose."

The speed limit on Belgian highways is 120km/h.  A Boxster GTS has a maximum speed of 280 km/h.



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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 09:13:19 AM »

That's ridiculous. 151 knots is above cruising speed for an airplane like the Canadian Beaver, and you're not going to lose it in a turn.

But it sure is a relief from the Trump II insult war and uninformed opinions on "global warming."

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 09:13:20 AM »

Lucky that she didn't find the sleep she was looking for while at the wheel. ;)

Us Belgians do these things, we can't help it...

But that really aren't fast driving compared to what guys do legally in Germany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fnXm976MLA

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 09:39:51 AM »

Lucky that she didn't find the sleep she was looking for while at the wheel. ;)

Us Belgians do these things, we can't help it...

But that really aren't fast driving compared to what guys do legally in Germany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fnXm976MLA

Cheers,
Bernard


The thing about the German videos is that the cars all seem to have drivers who use their rear-view mirrors. It wouldn't work in Spain, because apart from that problem, there's the tailgating - even in rain.

Love the sound of the Alfa in the second video that comes up! I had an Alfa once, but it was nothing like that...

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 10:18:05 AM »

Lucky that she didn't find the sleep she was looking for while at the wheel. ;)

Us Belgians do these things, we can't help it...

But that really aren't fast driving compared to what guys do legally in Germany: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fnXm976MLA

Cheers,
Bernard

No, but you can immediately tell when you cross the border into Belgium, whether from France, Germany or NL, as the standard of driving plummets and your trip becomes a whole lot more dangerous.
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2017, 11:34:02 AM »

One pot hole or one roadkill body and the trip might turn out unpleasant.

That's over 200 feet per second.  Not a lot of reaction time
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »

It's only 148 mph, who doesn't drive that fast from time to time. 

Joking, of course, although I did have an assistant who was clocked at 198 mph on his motorcycle.  He got a week in jail for that, a pretty high fine and loss of license for a year. 
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2017, 11:43:48 AM »

One pot hole or one roadkill body and the trip might turn out unpleasant.
That's over 200 feet per second.  Not a lot of reaction time

Speaking about potholes, here is my friend Glenn Springer driving in Newfoundland to Cape St.Mary, one of the largest gannet rookeries in the world.

https://www.facebook.com/faczen/videos/873911209424538/

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2017, 12:05:53 PM »

It's only 148 mph, who doesn't drive that fast from time to time. 
Joking, of course, although I did have an assistant who was clocked at 198 mph on his motorcycle.  He got a week in jail for that, a pretty high fine and loss of license for a year.

198mph or 198km/h ?
At one time, I drove at 190 km/h, but 198mph is equivalent to 318 km/h. Must have been downhill. Ducati 1098S, one of the fastest street bikes has a max. speed of 169mph.
At that speed on a motorcycle even hitting a bird could turn deadly.   

BTW, the record top speed at the Nurburgring (in a car) was just over 400 km/h.

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2017, 01:24:03 PM »

That's ridiculous. 151 knots is above cruising speed for an airplane like the Canadian Beaver, and you're not going to lose it in a turn.

But it sure is a relief from the Trump II insult war and uninformed opinions on "global warming."

Right? It's almost like people don't believe in scientific method anymore. Crazy times. ;)

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2017, 03:05:13 PM »

198mph or 198km/h ?
At one time, I drove at 190 km/h, but 198mph is equivalent to 318 km/h. Must have been downhill. Ducati 1098S, one of the fastest street bikes has a max. speed of 169mph.
At that speed on a motorcycle even hitting a bird could turn deadly.   

BTW, the record top speed at the Nurburgring (in a car) was just over 400 km/h.

I was pretty sure he said mph, but could have added a few 10s onto it.  He said when he got pulled over, he was thinking "how much is this ticket going to be?"  Then he saw the handcuffs. 
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2017, 05:49:54 PM »

Right? It's almost like people don't believe in scientific method anymore. Crazy times. ;)

C'mon, Matt, if you find the nature of things too discordant with whatever story you're swilling, a thorough reconfiguration is only some incantatory chanting and a heel click away!

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2017, 06:55:09 PM »

Eschew obfuscation?
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2017, 08:10:50 PM »

Speaking about potholes, here is my friend Glenn Springer driving in Newfoundland to Cape St.Mary, one of the largest gannet rookeries in the world.

https://www.facebook.com/faczen/videos/873911209424538/

Les - thats just the government's way of slowing folks down and trying to decrease  the 600-700 moose vehicle accidents every year.  Tell your friend that if he wants real sport he should try out the trans-Labrador highway.
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2017, 09:13:49 PM »

Thanks, Chuck, a good advice is always appreciated! I passed that message to Glenn.

We have here our own roads with world-class potholes. The picture below was taken in April, not on 401 Highway, but on a small country lane, north of Kirkfield in Ontario. I was there again looking for songbirds just this past Saturday, and all the potholes and puddles were still there. I managed to get through, but I wouldn't drive there that Ferrari 488 GTB.

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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2017, 09:17:19 PM »

Les - thats just the government's way of slowing folks down and trying to decrease  the 600-700 moose vehicle accidents every year.  Tell your friend that if he wants real sport he should try out the trans-Labrador highway.

This is off the topic of this thread, but the drive down that road to Cape St. Mary's (which I've been on twice, btw, and both times the weather was good inland but foggy by the time we got to the parking lot near the lighthouse) reminds me of something. I competed in automobile rallies for years and so spent a lot of my time on rural roads in Ontario. What I found was that the rural gravel roads are usually in much better condition than the paved ones, except for that first year that the road was paved. One the things I noticed in the townships north and west of Toronto (where I used to live) was that as soon as an area was gentrified, i.e, farms bought up by developers who built "executive estate homes" was that the existing gravel roads were soon paved and the speed limit dropped (although that never slowed down traffic much). Then a couple of years later that asphalt was a mess but the township never had enough money to do the maintenance. All because people don't want any dust on their shiny SUVs.
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2017, 09:20:00 PM »

Thanks, Chuck, a good advice is always appreciated! I passed that message to Glenn.

We have here our own roads with world-class potholes. The picture below was taken in April, not on 401 Highway, but on a small country lane, north of Kirkfield in Ontario. I was there again looking for songbirds just this past Saturday, and all the potholes and puddles were still there. I managed to get through, but I wouldn't drive there that Ferrari 488 GTB.

This past spring was terrible for rural roads in Ontario, true here in eastern Ontario too. Way too much rain. Highway 28 south of Bancroft was closed for a time last week when a beaver dam let go and the rush of water washed out the road. The weather was too much even for beavers.
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2017, 10:00:16 PM »

This is off the topic of this thread, but the drive down that road to Cape St. Mary's (which I've been on twice, btw, and both times the weather was good inland but foggy by the time we got to the parking lot near the lighthouse) reminds me of something. I competed in automobile rallies for years and so spent a lot of my time on rural roads in Ontario. What I found was that the rural gravel roads are usually in much better condition than the paved ones, except for that first year that the road was paved. One the things I noticed in the townships north and west of Toronto (where I used to live) was that as soon as an area was gentrified, i.e, farms bought up by developers who built "executive estate homes" was that the existing gravel roads were soon paved and the speed limit dropped (although that never slowed down traffic much). Then a couple of years later that asphalt was a mess but the township never had enough money to do the maintenance. All because people don't want any dust on their shiny SUVs.

Not necessarily. One of the worst gravel roads I experienced is a washboad road across the Parry Island First Nation (southwest from Parry Sound). They re-grade it occasionally, but soon after the washboard pattern appears again. First time visitors drive there very slowly which takes forever, and the locals drive as fast as they can without skidding off the road. As the cars tires lose a firm grip on the road and begin to spin or skid just a little, they displace a slight amount of gravel and the road will align itself into the washboard pattern. Ironically, light vehicles with small wheels and light suspensions cause more washboarding than trucks. I suspect that this year with all the rain we are having, the road is not as bad in the dry years.

I remember also the old dirt road to Killarney. This is a long road, about 70km from Hwy 400 to Killarney town. It used to be quite bad and slow. But for a quite a few years now, they have had a nice asphalt road which makes a big difference. On that road, I have never seen a moose, but twice I saw a black bear. One big male crossed the road about 1km before the provincial park and was heading for the park just around the dinner time.   

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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 03:08:08 AM »

I found that the latterite or compacted clay roads in West Africa would washboard as you describe it and indeed you could go slowly or just go for it and float across the ridges :) I found it unnerving but effective and my little Datsun 120Y (or Sunny) was a tough little so and so. The things that car did was crazy and nothing broke in three years apart from the thermostat which I removed.
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Re: Fast Driving
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2017, 10:38:00 PM »

Thanks, Chuck, a good advice is always appreciated! I passed that message to Glenn.

We have here our own roads with world-class potholes. The picture below was taken in April, not on 401 Highway, but on a small country lane, north of Kirkfield in Ontario. I was there again looking for songbirds just this past Saturday, and all the potholes and puddles were still there. I managed to get through, but I wouldn't drive there that Ferrari 488 GTB.
Les, Have you been to NYC lately, especially after the winter?  The potholes are like Florida sinkholes.  If you wait awhile, new potholes re-align your wheels that got misaligned from the last hole you hit. 

If I recall correctly when I lived there, there was a law firm that would report potholes to the NYC highway department immediately after they learned of them from other citizens.  That way, if someone damaged their car driving through one after the report, they could sue and get a recovery judgment.  The law is written that if the city did not know about the pothole beforehand, you couldn't sue. 
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