i find that phase is better at providing "clean" colors...whereas leaf almost comes with a "look"...a little like kodak vs. fuji where fuji was a little warmer and had better skin tones (imho)...does not mean that you can't get good skintones with phase and clean color with leaf...but if you look at james's work, he has a definite "look" and color fidelity does not seem really important...
Color is so subjective, especially on different moitors and more importantly genre's or subjects.
Early on I would zero the Aptus out with a color card then do "my" look in post, but now I usually get my base settings in V-8 and either transfer them to the cf cards or continue to shoot tetherred.
With the size of DB files, the closer you get out of camer, the less time you have to spend in post.
Regardless, eveything I shoot has some post work to it, regardless.
Also lenses, light sources make a big difference and of course what is in my mind to start with.
I have very little experience working the Phase files, but have used C-1 quite a bit when I shot with the Canons and the Nikon D2x. I like C-1 though find it looks a little brittle for my taste, but regardless of raw convertor I do know the Leaf files save me a great deal of time in post because the colors are easier to move selectively vs. the global looks I tend to get in the dslrs, especially the 1ds2.
I am very famiiar with Leaf V-8 for Capture and pscs for batch or singlular processing and like anything since I am familiar with it I tend to like it better.
These two images were shot to a style and have a great deal of post work, but they do give some idea of the possibilities of working with a deeper file.
Then again some of the work I do is very color critical and has more to do with skin tone and product color than the actual style of the photo.
To me the comparision of Leaf vs. Phase vs. anything really has nothing to do with the experiences I share. For some reason is seams if I says anything positive about one system, or then it tends to bring out the someone that wants to prove their choice brand is as good or better and that's not the reason for these forums. DP review seems to have that area covered.
To me the reason for these forums is to learn and share and hopefully give someone a little better idea about real world use of these systems.
Actually, had Phase at the time had a better LCD I might have gone that direction and from all accounts everyone says they make a good product. I know it's robust butr also have heard my share of stories of cameras going down, but I've heard that about every camera and all I can report on is what I use.
It really doesn't matter if what you use works for you.
Actually the goal is to use what doesn't limit you and for me the Leaf was less limiting, but that is only for my work.
I do disagree that the Leaf and Phase are equal products. Both good products but the companies seem to have different philosophies.
The Leaf allows for more user set ups on the back prior to shooting, where the Phase seems to rely more on the post production when you shoot non tethered.
The Leaf gives a larger and more useable LCD while the Phase offers an LCD for composition expecting the user to read the histogram for exposure.
Leaf early on offered their file to other software developers and Phase seemed to work a closed loop from capture to process.
Obviously the Phase software is much more robust and mature than the Leaf, though also requires a lot more computer to run than Leaf's V-8. I can't comment that much on LC 10 because I only use it for jpeg creation though I know it is still a work in progress for my type of work.
Still this DOES NOT imply anything other than these are much different philosophies and some people are more comfortable with Phase, others with Leaf.
For the people that were curious, this is the complete shoot from one of my previous links, straight out of the camera. All shot at iso 200, all with window light and some very low powered flash for fill.
All was shot tethered to a G4 powerbook, using Leaf V-8, with standard white balance, though I did make a slight -1G setting.http://www.russellrutherfordgroup.com/looking_glass2/
The Jpegs for this web gallery were created directly out of LC10. The raw files were selected in LC10 and it makes automatic jpegs at approx. 1000, px wide, reading the previous settings from V-8, at approx 3 seconds a file on a powerbook G4.
Obviously the jpegs were then knocked down in I-view for this web gallery and a color profile applied.