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Tethering - wireless?
« on: May 20, 2017, 02:31:03 AM »

I get increasing client requests for tethering.

Has wireless tethering become reliable with C1? (I'm on v9) If yes, what sending unit do you use?

Or is a cable still the best option?

We tried out cable based tethering but it was so damn slow I couldn't really shoot.

Is there a way to keep the CR2 of my CAnon 5dIII on my card and only jpegs to the computer of the client? This way I wouldn't be held up by terribly slow read speeds that made shooting impossible.

I know I can use the Canon utility to send only jpegs to my computer but then I'd have to use the canon raw converter to show the images.

I'd rather use C1 -
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 09:23:41 AM »

A cable is required for tethering.

There is no way cable tethering should be slow.  Canon (and Nikon) with Capture One offer incredibly fast capture speeds.

I would make sure you are up to date, have a decent cable and try again.

Wireless will certainly be slower!

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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 01:07:19 PM »

Agree with David - I tether with my 60mp Credo and it's fast, get a good tether tools cable and a fast laptop. Also you can wirelessly stream to a tablet via capture pilot which is pretty quick as well.

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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2017, 03:36:27 AM »

A cable is required for tethering.

There is no way cable tethering should be slow.  Canon (and Nikon) with Capture One offer incredibly fast capture speeds.

I would make sure you are up to date, have a decent cable and try again.

Wireless will certainly be slower!

It was terribly slow. After ten or fifteen shots my camera was inoperable for 5 minutes and I thought the images were lost until they slowly appeared.

Maybe beause it was a USB2 cable?

Was the cable too long?



What cable should I be buying? What is the maximum length?
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2017, 03:56:21 AM »

Agree with David - I tether with my 60mp Credo and it's fast, get a good tether tools cable and a fast laptop. Also you can wirelessly stream to a tablet via capture pilot which is pretty quick as well.

So I could download capture pilot and give my phone to the client?

But how do you get the image to the phone? I don't have wifi on my 5DIII.
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2017, 05:29:31 AM »

Tethertools have a cable finder..

https://www.tethertools.com/product-category/cables-adapters/

Capture Pilot works with the connection to your laptop.  Not the camera, therefore it does not require Wifi.

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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2017, 10:00:02 AM »

Tethertools have a cable finder..

https://www.tethertools.com/product-category/cables-adapters/

Capture Pilot works with the connection to your laptop.  Not the camera, therefore it does not require Wifi.

David

I would highly recommend getting a travel router and setting up a network if you plan on using Capture Pilot.  The ad-hoc connection is not as reliable.

I use Capture Pilot every time I shoot with a router similar to this with superb results.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wireless-Travel-Extender-TL-WR802N/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00TQEX8BO&pd_rd_r=Q83BWXT7EY9BGHXZEN1F&pd_rd_w=0POGg&pd_rd_wg=MRNyn&psc=1&refRID=Q83BWXT7EY9BGHXZEN1F
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2017, 03:31:21 AM »

I would highly recommend getting a travel router and setting up a network if you plan on using Capture Pilot.  The ad-hoc connection is not as reliable.

I use Capture Pilot every time I shoot with a router similar to this with superb results.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wireless-Travel-Extender-TL-WR802N/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00TQEX8BO&pd_rd_r=Q83BWXT7EY9BGHXZEN1F&pd_rd_w=0POGg&pd_rd_wg=MRNyn&psc=1&refRID=Q83BWXT7EY9BGHXZEN1F

Thanks!

The cable finder led me to a usb 2.0 cable. Isn't usb 2.0 terribly slow?

I think it was a usb 2.0 cable that slowed my camera down so much that I had to stop shooting, disconnect, and continue the shoot untethered. After fifteen images I had to wait five minutes.
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2017, 06:30:36 AM »

Thanks!

The cable finder led me to a usb 2.0 cable. Isn't usb 2.0 terribly slow?

I think it was a usb 2.0 cable that slowed my camera down so much that I had to stop shooting, disconnect, and continue the shoot untethered. After fifteen images I had to wait five minutes.

I don't need speed for my shots but I do need a long cable so I use a 30' USB2 cable with my 5Ds. I also have a 30' USB3 cable and it is faster but it requires a powered hub to make it work and it is quite a bit heavier than the USB2 cable.  I find it is 30 or 40 percent faster than the USB2 cable. 
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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2017, 06:10:31 AM »

Thanks!

The cable finder led me to a usb 2.0 cable. Isn't usb 2.0 terribly slow?

I think it was a usb 2.0 cable that slowed my camera down so much that I had to stop shooting, disconnect, and continue the shoot untethered. After fifteen images I had to wait five minutes.

USB 3 is certainly faster but I would not describe the 5DMKIII as slow when capturing tethered.

Could be many other factors - poor cable, writing to a slow hard drive... etc.

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Re: Tethering - wireless?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2017, 05:33:17 PM »

Thanks!

The cable finder led me to a usb 2.0 cable. Isn't usb 2.0 terribly slow?

I think it was a usb 2.0 cable that slowed my camera down so much that I had to stop shooting, disconnect, and continue the shoot untethered. After fifteen images I had to wait five minutes.

When shooting tethered, you need to capture to an internal drive, and that drive should be a SSD.  Having anything else attached via USB can cause lots of issues, as you're looking at the bus being tied up.  Tell us more about the computer you're shooting to.  What other applications are running?  How much RAM & free space do you have.  In a perfect world, you would only have CaptureOne running, writing to a SSD drive (internal).  Disable any anti-virus/security programs, Dropbox, really anything that may compete with CaptureOne from doing the job at hand.  Do not use a USB hub, get a proper length cord, such as the tether tools.  Things like USB extenders can cause their own issues.

Tell us about your shooting style, are you doing singe shots or bursts?  Are you working handheld or from a tripod/copy stand?
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