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Re: Why Print using Mat Inks and Paper?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2017, 12:49:59 PM »

Interesting. Have you measured the L* value of the deepest Black you achieved on that paper? If so what was it ?

I cannot measure it, but when i compare it with my analogue prints it is far deeper black.
Not as black as black velvet but very good.
As you might know the Z3100 is famous for its neutral BW prints.

But the point was about protecting the paper.
Every touch you see a mark.
If you sell it it has to have some protection from dust and liquid for that reason.

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Re: Why Print using Mat Inks and Paper?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2017, 01:15:19 PM »

I cannot measure it, but when i compare it with my analogue prints it is far deeper black.
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This coheres with my experience comparing - and measuring - B&W prints produced with the latest generation of Epson and Canon printers versus the darkroom prints I have from the 1950s to 1970s. I do know of HPs reputation for B&W but haven't had access to output I could scientifically compare, hence my question. Thanks for getting back on it.
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Re: Why Print using Mat Inks and Paper?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2017, 07:18:46 PM »

I agree with most of this, except that the difference of minimum L* (maximum Black) between PK/MK papers is more than a "smidgen" - we're talking moving from a range of L*2~3 for the PK papers to L*13~16 for the matte papers. As a result, it's much easier to bring out detail in the deep quartertones using PK papers, but that said, depending on the photo, some of the matte papers suit the images beautifully.

Well, instead of a "smidgen" deeper black, maybe I should have said a "tad" deeper black?

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Re: Why Print using Mat Inks and Paper?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 07:58:04 PM »

Well, instead of a "smidgen" deeper black, maybe I should have said a "tad" deeper black?

"Several tads"!  :-)
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