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Got a Canon 5DS and thinking of making the jump to A7RII... any thoughts?
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2017, 11:45:17 PM »

I've moved from sony a700 to a6000. No way that I could return.
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2017, 12:51:24 AM »

I recently moved from a Canon 7D system to a Sony A6000. There is no reason to consider going back to Canon. I had begun to struggle with the weight of the Canon kit and now, my camera with 18-55 mm, 55-210 and a Zeiss 12mm and the vest that carries them all, plus space batteries and cards weighs about 5 lbs, total.

While image quality seems to be comparable, it was seemingly easier to achieve the quality I look for with the Canon gear, but with sufficient care, the Sony will equal or exceed the Canon.

Alan
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2017, 01:40:40 AM »

Hi,

I use a Sony A7rII, mostly with Canon lenses (16-35/4 L, 24/3.5 TSE LII and 24-105/4L).

For slow work that I mostly do the Sony A7rII is quite OK. I would probably not use it for action, at least not with Canon lenses.

Next lens I buy will probably be, Canon's 100-400/4.5-5.6 L (or what it is called?!). To that lens I would also probably buy a Canon 7DII, for shooting birds.

The advantages of mirrorless are:

- Accurate manual using magnified live view
- Vibration free
- Accurate AF
- Works well in dark places (good visibility)

Disadvantage is viewfinder lag, view is delayed. In an SLR you see the image in real time, with an EVF there is some delay.

Shutter response on an EVF may be faster than on a DSLR, though.

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Erik

Got a Canon 5DS and thinking of making the jump to A7RII... any thoughts?

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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2017, 04:31:26 AM »

Yes. Just look at the lenses, and see if they have what you require.

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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 05:43:02 AM »

I知 absolutely delighted since switching from Canon 5D and 5D MkIII to Fujifilm X-T1, X-Pro1 and X100T.

My main reason for initially looking closely at Fujifilm was the aperture ring on most lenses.  I知 more of an analog-style photographer.  Since switching, I really like the ability to check for blow out highlights in the viewfinder before taking a shot.

The only piece of gear I知 missing is a true macro lens with tripod collar for the X-mount.  Such a beast will probably never see the light of day  :(  so I値l stick with my Minolta MD 100 macro (with Novoflex adaptor).

I love the smaller and lighter gear and really notice, how others no longer notice the camera I知 carrying.  :)

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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 08:08:40 AM »

Couldn't be happier. Switched from Canon APS/FF to MFT and Sony FE. Completely changed my user experience from a mainly trial & error approach to a single shot WYSIWYG exposure, saved weight and size, and gained IQ (for the MFT this happened when Olympus started to use Sony sensors).

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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2017, 10:24:22 AM »

After years of shooting various Canon 1DS and 1D bodies got rid of every scrap of Canon gear except for two body caps that turned up in a drawer.

Replaced it all with an A6000 and A6300. Various lenses and flashes. Happy with everything except the 55 to 210 lens. It's a dog.

I won't go back to DSLR. No way. Love the EVF. Love the weight and size of the cameras. I'm a commercial product photographer. Images seldom go bigger than A5. I shoot a lot of personal work in quite dangerous areas. The little sonys are the business. Taking no them to Tibet for July. I'm totally confidant that if I don't get good images that it will be my fault and not the cameras.

Bit of a learning curve. Sony menus are a bit odd but I'm comfortable with them now. Amuses me when I see signs saying no professional cameras and I stroll past with a smile. People don't take the little cameras seriously.
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2017, 10:27:04 AM »

Got a Canon 5DS and thinking of making the jump to A7RII... any thoughts?

It's a different shooting experience with mirrorless. Not better or worse, just different. I'd suggest renting or some kind of trial to make sure you are happy with it.

I went from Pentax DSLRs to Olympus M43. The EVF allows precise adjustment of focus and exposure settings, so you can see when you are off. My keeper rate has gone up, things are generally easier. The weight/size saving is significant at least with primes and smaller lenses, and I like Oly's modern M43 lenses which are fast, optically good and so far trouble-free.  But ... there is still something a little soulless about the mirrorless experience. It's very high tech and efficient with it, and generally I am very pleased indeed with the change, but something in me still misses analogue a bit or at least a more analogue style. As I said, test first to make sure it's for you. There seem to be plenty of adapters which will allow you to use Canon lenses on Sony or Olympus and probably others. If Canon come out with a cracking mirrorless offering in the future then the adapter approach means you could probably keep your Canon lenses against a return later. Just sayin', though most folks seem to switch the lot and that's it.
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2017, 10:39:53 AM »

A former Canon owner, 5DmII and 1DM4 and many previous iterations, moved to Fuji X cameras and love it. No regrets.

Alan
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2017, 11:35:13 AM »

In the film era, I used Nikons, Hasselblad, Mamiya 7, and 4x5. In the digital era I used Nikon, Olympus, and now Fuji. As others have said there is a different workflow with mirrorless, a more efficient, easier, more pleasant workflow in my view. I also agree you should rent or borrow a mirrorless camera for long enough to understand and appreciate these differences. The entire concept of exposure in mirrorless is simplified, you see, you get, and with a current histogram in the finder if you wish, without a loupe on the back of the camera in clumsy live view. It's always live view, with lots of information... or none at all, depending on your style. The difference is almost as profound as digital vs darkroom printing. In darkroom printing you iterate with lots of sheets of paper guessing each time if this print will be "the one." In digital printing, with a calibrated system, you get it right on the monitor and often get it right or very close with the first print. I enjoy using my lighter easier to carry about mirrorless camera a lot. You may or may not. Be aware that while the M4/3 and Fuji systems have many small excellent lightweight lenses, the full frame mirrorless, e.g. Sony, require larger often heavier lenses to be fast and cover the full frame sensor. There are smaller primes in the Sony system but the best zooms are pretty big. That may or may not be a deal breaker for you. I put together a spreadsheet with the weights of the bodies and common lenses for Fuji and Sony. PM me if you'd like to look at it. Try not to fall into the trap of thinking you'll realistically use your "legacy" lenses just because you can mount them. Most do not work as well and significantly complicate things except of certain exotics (I kept my Nikon tilt shift lenses).
Good luck on your quest. Ask the hard questions, what do I gain, what do I lose, is it worth the money? But have fun.
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2017, 12:39:35 PM »

I still have my big DSLR brick.  If I go out specifically to take photographs, I might take it along.

But since buying the x100T, that's the camera that I take with me more often.

Am I going to ditch my DSLR?  Probably not.  But it may end up spending more of its time on the shelf where as the mirrorless is spending more time with me.
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2017, 04:09:53 PM »

I got my first Canon pro SLR in 1970 (F1).  I've been shooting Canon DSLRs for well over a decade.  From early DSLRs to 1DM2 to 5D to 7D, etc. and a number of L glass lenses.  They now do a fine job of keeping a shelf in my space from floating away.

I tried the Fuji X-T1 a couple of years ago as my walkabout camera and was blown away by the ergonomics and image quality.  I still have it as a backup but now mostly shoot with my X-T2.  I also have a growing collection of Fuji lenses.

No way do I envision going back to DSLRs.  Too many benefits to mirrorless for me to backtrack. 
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2017, 04:29:25 PM »

i went from film 2 1/4 hasselblads, 4x5, nikons & leica m6 to the digital nikon d3x, then the d800, then to sony.  i love the rx1 as much as my old hasselblad swc.  the a7rII has an incredible sensor, just incredible what you can pull out of those raw files.  so if the change from nikon to sony mirrorless was a good one for me, the change form the a7II to the a7rII has been amazing...
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2017, 05:14:57 PM »

I love the mechanics of SLRs. Film SLRs, that is.  ;)  D-SLRs are IMO "one foot in the door, the other refusing to budge" affairs. Once I got my hands on an interchangeable lens EVF-equipped gizmo I thought, "Ah, this is a proper electronic camera!" Been mostly sans mirror ever since.

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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2017, 05:55:26 PM »

Moved from 5DII to XT-1 and now XT-2.
- no more calibrating lenses for focussing errors
- no longer having to think of losing detail due to mirror slap (moving the mirror up on a DSLR is not always an option)
- I can focus using the electronic viewfinder with 10 stops of ND filter on the front of the lens
- big difference in total system weight (not applicable if you are looking at a 35mm sensor size)
- WYSIWYG. I no longer rely on the histogram.

The usual rules apply though. You need to test drive a camera system to see if the ergonomics will suit you. Does the system have lenses that suit your needs? And some people are driven mad with an electronic viewfinder. I really like it.
David
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2017, 08:04:56 PM »

I went a step further to a Sony RX10iii from a complete D800E system. DR is less and it's a different experience with the EVF (I'm not quite used to it for close-up work), but it's my go to camera for travel photography, hiking, and any other time I don't want to be weighed down with larger and heavier gear.

Glad to hear the Oly experience has improved. I'd go that route, but the comparably slight gain in IQ is, at least to me, not worth doubling the $ outlay
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2017, 09:39:00 PM »

The size and weight benefits of my Olympus Micro 4/3rds is great, and the quality is quite good for the size.  My old Nikons handled much better as far as buttons and setup, however.  I can fit 3 EM-10s attached to zoom lenses in a bag that fits a Nikon DSLR with one of the equivalent zoom lenses. Very worth it, IMO.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2017, 11:28:43 PM »

I am so much more satisfied shooting Olympus.  Lenses are great and tiny, and the bodies allow customization and functionality that no canon ever got close to.  I am making images that were impossible on my canons.  Quality has been better generally.  Nothing to miss. 
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Re: Previous DSLR users, are you happy with your mirrorless system?
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2017, 06:46:02 PM »

Been using m4/3 gear in preference to a Canon APS-C setup (that I still have) for about 5 years now. Zero regrets, and over that time the only use I've had for the Canon was when I needed a long telephoto, the 70-300 worked better (mainly the stabilization) than the m4/3 gear did. With the improved IBIS on the G85 combined with Dual IS2 on the new 100-300, the Canon stuff may get retired permanently.

No reason to go back, nothing I commonly shoot is better served by a mirror-flapper. :)
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