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Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:23:18 am »

Well my wife gave this image her nod of approval and believe me, she can be something of a hard nosed critic of my work at times, so I thought I would risk showing you all this other nod towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls inspired image as well.

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2017, 09:06:53 am »

Very nice Dave. Love it.
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2017, 09:09:22 am »

Fabulous, Dave!
And by the way, I too have a domestic critic ;)

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 11:21:54 am »

Quite excellent!
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 02:19:36 pm »

I like that a lot. Even, unusually for me, the toning.

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 02:43:42 pm »

Fabulous, Dave!
And by the way, I too have a domestic critic ;)

Yes indeed, what would we do without them  :)

Thanks everyone, I wasn't sure it would meet with your approval, but I am really chuffed that it has  ;)

Dave
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2017, 04:11:02 pm »

This is really lovely!
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 04:11:41 am »

Unusual, something I've never seen and I love it too!
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 04:16:15 am »

Dave, I am a photographer and a calligrapher, and I have attempted "merging of the two" (yes, I know a few people have done it). Anyway, your artworks is gorgeous. Keep it up.
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2017, 05:14:17 am »

Thanks everyone, I wasn't sure it would meet with your approval, but I am really chuffed that it has  ;)

I'd love to know how you processed it.

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2017, 02:38:08 pm »

I'd love to know how you processed it.

Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

It is difficult, but I will try.

First of all I have to know where I am going with a picture and what the end result is that I am after, so I know when I am there, sort of like previsualisation at the computer if you like, which I am sure most people will find a little odd, but anyway. So I load the file I am going to work on and start throwing some PS manipuation at it, until it looks pretty much exactly what I had in mind. If I was a rock lead guitarist, which I tried to be for around 50 years but failed miserably, then I would put this process down to being similar to getting into the zone and doing a sort of free form lead break, where I just get carried away with the moment, but wouldn't really know what any of the notes I had played to achieve it - sorry I can't think of any other way to describe it, as all I know is what I want it to look/sound like, so I just let my fingers do what they want on the keyboard/fretboard until it is done sort of thing. Now at this point I am sure there are going to be quite a few people on here rolling their eyes up into their heads and thinking what is this guy on, but that really is how it happens, I cannot describe it any other way, I am not trying to be up my own backside or anything, this really is what I do, it is like playing a lead break with Photoshop. Think of it another way as like playing the piano, where a pianist doesn't know each of the individual notes as they are playing them, yet they still know how to play a concert in a way that people seem to enjoy - hopefully.

So, down to the technicalities that I can remember.

Firstly it was a photograph taken when all the foliage was in bright full bloom colour and there was a sunset happening to my left, so there were lots of warm tones in the shot to work with, I did the usual dust spots and sharpening etc and then turned it into a black and white layer using the blue filter which I knew would send the greens to black. I then did lots of luminosity masking to even out the tones and flatten the light across the image as much as I could, to make it look like a Chinese Hanging Scroll drawing rather than a photograph. I then boosted the contrast in the foreground foliage area. I then added a colour layer that I thought near enough matched what you would see in a hanging scroll, which differ enormously but tend to be warm yet quite dark and after an hour or so of noodling (a guitar playing term) there it was on the screen in front of me, I then showed it to my missus who had just brought me a nice cup of tea and when she saw it she made all the right noises, so I then showed it on here about an hour later.

So I am sorry, all that waffle above is probably not what you wanted to read and is nothing like a list of actions I know, and I am not trying to hide any hidden techniques away from you, it is just that I seem to have learnt how to manipulate an image without having to think what I am doing to it, or how I am going to achieve the effect that I am after, I just do it. Which can actually be a right pain in the arse if ever I want to replicate an effect, because I can't, although I can usual get something close but yet quite different, a bit like a being able to perform a free form lead break on a guitar  :D
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2017, 11:43:36 pm »

Your wife judged this beaut well!
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2017, 12:21:12 am »

Great vision. The pines in the background
resemble Chinese landscapes created in ink.
All you need is a scholar seated on the shore
below the large tree.
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 05:45:37 am »

Great vision. The pines in the background
resemble Chinese landscapes created in ink.
All you need is a scholar seated on the shore
below the large tree.
John M R

Ah don't say that to me John, remember I am liable to go and put something in there as people suggest to me and then ruin the whole thing  ;)
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 09:13:54 am »

Your process... I love it.

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2017, 04:32:40 am »

Hi Jeremy,

It is difficult, but I will try.

...

So I am sorry, all that waffle above is probably not what you wanted to read and is nothing like a list of actions I know...

Not at all: I was curious as to how you managed it and how I might be able to adapt your process to some of my images. I wasn't looking for a recipe: I find I learn very little if I merely follow other people's steps without understanding what they're doing.

Thanks

Jeremy
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2017, 11:00:16 pm »

I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but when a novel style is introduced some
copycat fool is bound to rush in. Anyway, here is my attempt in the style of a
Chinese hanging scroll.

nb: This is the only time this concoction will be let out of the house.

Regards,
Dale
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2017, 11:28:18 am »

You know what Dale, for my money if you cloned out that small house at the bottom right, I would certainly give that image 10 out of 10.

I don't know why you wouldn't want to show this beautiful scene repeatedly to everyone who ever wanted to look at it, as it is really very, very good  :)

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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 01:50:35 am »

Dale,
I think that the house adds to a sense of
a Chinese inspired landscape. That sense
was inspired by a quality of lingering. A
classic Chinese landscape offered the viewer
a perspective of travelling through the paths
of the landscape, or joining the artist's view
of his abode. I can appreciate this work by
imagining myself walking out from that house,
and being awed by the view. What are you saying
with your well balanced calligraphy and seal.
Chinese inscriptions and seals often finished a
composition.
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Re: Another Nod Towards Chinese Hanging Scrolls
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 08:42:50 am »

Dale,
I think that the house adds to a sense of
a Chinese inspired landscape. That sense
was inspired by a quality of lingering. A
classic Chinese landscape offered the viewer
a perspective of travelling through the paths
of the landscape, or joining the artist's view
of his abode. I can appreciate this work by
imagining myself walking out from that house,
and being awed by the view. What are you saying
with your well balanced calligraphy and seal.
Chinese inscriptions and seals often finished a
composition.
AAfter reading Dave's comment, I wondered some about that little house. But it felt right to me, and Visualizer has put into wordsexactly how I feel about it.

I love both of these "Chinese scrolls!"
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