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William Chitham

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Any Ideas For z3200 To Match Fuji Crystal Archive Paper?
« on: February 10, 2017, 09:55:12 am »

I've been asked to supply some colour prints from scanned images for an exhibition and it turns out they need to hang with existing prints done on Fuji Crystal, presumably on an LED printer. Time is tight so any suggestions for a glossy paper, available in the Uk, that will be easy to set up on my z3200 (ideally one with an oms set up file available) would be much appreciated.
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William.
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Re: Any Ideas For z3200 To Match Fuji Crystal Archive Paper?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 12:09:37 pm »

Hi WIlliam,

Fuji is close to Pictorico White Film.  I've looked for a OMS file but can't find one.

If you can find that paper in the size you need, you could make a custom profile with your Z- I'd try Transparent Clear Film as a preset to start with.  If no good, then I'd try Photo Gloss/ Semi-Gloss as a preset.

It might get you close.

You didn't say what size, but

Here is some Pictorico on Amazon -England

Here it is at B+H - don't know if they would ship to you or not:

Pictorico Pro High Gloss White Film

Good luck -

Mark

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Re: Any Ideas For z3200 To Match Fuji Crystal Archive Paper?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 02:18:36 pm »

Hi WIlliam,

Fuji is close to Pictorico White Film.

Mark

The Pictorico product is indeed close to what Fujifilm markets as "FujiFlex: material,i.e., a polyester base RA-4 color chromogenic display film product. However, I suspect that William may be referring to Fuji Crystal Archive II paper which is a more conventional Resin coated (RC) photo paper available in both glossy and luster type surface textures. As such, an RC inkjet paper with a close whitepoint media color to Fuji Crystal Archive II is required. You can filter the Aardenburg Imaging Lightfade database (http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/light-fade-test-results/) to find some LAB value measurements (D50, MO condition) for the Crystal Archive II media. The L* value is typically around 92-93 while a* is approximately 0.5 and b* ranged from -3.1 to -4.8 in the samples I tested.  Crystal Archive II is therefore an RC paper with moderate OBA content. Many RC inkjet paper with glossy and/or luster type surface fall into this basic media color category. The Aardenburg database may help William to find an RC inkjet paper with similar whitepoint properties to the Fuji Crystal Archive II paper, but Ernst Dinkla's Spectrumvis database (http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm) is also a great resource that may help you identify a similarly white RC inkjet paper as the Fuji Crystal Archive material.

My current issue with just about all of the RC media on the market today (including Fuji Crystal Archive II) is their tendency to develop additional light-induced media discoloration when stored in the dark or in low light intensity storage environments after having accrued initial light exposure at higher light levels on display. With traditional RC chromogenic media like Crystal Archive, the problem doesn't manifest itself very much until the image dyes have also started to take on noticeable fading, but with a high stability printer like the HP Z series, the pigment colors are going to be stable much longer than the typical RC media on which they are printed. Hence, some of my current print permanence research is aimed at sorting various RC Inkjet media into bad, better, and best for resistance to this longer term media discoloration problem. One very popular RC inkjet paper brand, Epson Premium Luster (and glossy as well), sadly falls starkly into the "bad" category whereas other candidates for better long term stability are papers like Canon's "Premium Glossy Photographic Paper 2 280 gsm, and Canon "Premium Semi-Glssy Photographic Paper 2 280gsm".  Both have lower OBA content with media whitepoint color a little higher in L* value yet a little warmer on b*  (-2.6 to  -3.0) than Crystal Archive II.

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Mark
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Re: Any Ideas For z3200 To Match Fuji Crystal Archive Paper?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2017, 07:50:45 am »

The Aardenburg database may help William to find an RC inkjet paper with similar whitepoint properties to the Fuji Crystal Archive II paper, but Ernst Dinkla's Spectrumvis database (http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm) is also a great resource that may help you identify a similarly white RC inkjet paper as the Fuji Crystal Archive material.

kind regards,
Mark
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There is a spectral plot of Fuji Crystal paper in SpectrumViz so it can be compared to the gloss RC inkjet papers in Spectrumviz. The easiest way for you (OMS) is one of the two HP qualities as shown in the screengrab attached. Several Epson and Canon papers fit too. Third party UK distributed papers that fit are harder to find. Red plot is the FujiFilm FujiColor Crystal Photopaper. You can find it in the Silver Halide and Chromogenic Photo papers map of Spectrumviz.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

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February 2017 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots

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Re: Any Ideas For z3200 To Match Fuji Crystal Archive Paper?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 09:27:52 am »

Brilliant, just the job. It will be a tremendous shortcut to use an HP paper.

Many Thanks,

William Chitham.
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