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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4360 on: July 16, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »

Wasn't Jared going to fix the Middle East? We should stop distracting him and let him get on with the job.  ;)

Yeah, well, that didn't work out so well.

WILL TRUMP PULL OUT OF MIDDLE EAST PEACE TALKS AFTER REPORTS OF ABBAS KUSHNER RIFT?



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A U.S. official denied reports that President Donald Trump was considering pulling out of peace negotiations between Israel and Palestinians after a rift opened up in the first meeting between Trump aide and son-in-law Jared Kushner and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

London-based Arabic daily Al-Hayat reported Saturday that the meeting between Kushner and Abbas had been “tense.” Abbas was allegedly furious when Kushner relayed a set of demands from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to a translation of the report by the Jerusalem Post..

Israeli daily Haaretz reported that Palestinian officials were “greatly disappointed” following their Wednesday meeting with Kushner and Jonathan Greenblatt, Trump’s Middle East envoy.

"They sounded like Netanyahu's advisers and not like fair arbiters," a senior Palestinian official told the publication. "They started presenting Netanyahu's issues and then we asked to hear from them clear stances regarding the core issues of the conflict."

According to the report, Kushner and Greenblatt criticized Abbas for failing to condemn a terrorist attack in Jerusalem last week that left one dead, and for refusing to meet Trump’s appointee as U.S. ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, over his support for the settlement program.

A Palestinian official told Al-Hayat that Kushner will now report back to Trump, who will decide whether there are grounds for continuing talks.

Apparently Kushner may have been put in the back seat while the US ambassador to Israel steps in...

US ambassador to join meeting with Palestinian negotiators

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In policy change, David Friedman reportedly to accompany envoy Greenblatt to Jerusalem talks on restarting peace process

US President Donald Trump’s special envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process Jason Greenblatt was scheduled Tuesday to meet with Palestinian negotiators, and in an unusual development, US Ambassador David Friedman will also attend.

The meeting was to be held in Jerusalem and is aimed at negotiating a restart of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. US Consul General in Jerusalem Donald Blome, who is in charge of ties with the Palestinians, will also reportedly be at the talks.

Friedman, as envoy to Israel, is responsible for ties with the Jewish state and his presence at the table marks a change in US diplomacy said to have been ordered by Trump himself.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed to Haaretz that Friedman will be at the meeting and noted that Trump has made it clear he wants the ambassador to be a key member of the US negotiating team, along with Trump’s son-in-law and special adviser Jared Kushner.

Meanwhile Jared & Ivanka are kinda laying low...from Variety:

Sun Valley: Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump Keep Low Profile During Talks on Political Divisions, Mid-East Peace (EXCLUSIVE)

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Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, who are fleeing a wave of negative headlines currently enveloping the White House, are the oddball star attraction at Allen & Co.’s annual media and technology conference in Sun Valley, Idaho. But the members of the First Family are trying to maintain a low profile among the moguls and billionaires.



The couple arrived at the mountain resort on Wednesday evening. The week-long conference unfolds at the Sun Valley Lodge, a bucolic retreat, adorned with pools, tennis courts, and rolling hills. Kushner and Trump had dinner at the hotel’s ice rink, where they mingled with such high profile guests as CBS chief Leslie Moonves, according to attendees.

The annual conference draws a number of big names from Hollywood and Silicon Valley — Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, Time Warner chief Jeff Bewkes, ICM Partners’ Chris Silbermann, and producer Brian Grazer are among the guests. While Kushner and Trump have been attending conference sessions, the news cycle has been dominated by stories related to a Kremlin-connected lawyer’s offers to help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. The scandal, and the release of emails from Donald Trump Jr. providing proof of the exchange, is raising questions about the role that Russia played in the recent presidential election.

Nice place to go hide out in huh?

I guess the Donald is facing the reality that the Middle East, kinda like Healthcare in the US is very, very difficult. After all, wasn't it Trump himself that said thought being president “would be easier”? Exclusive: Trump says he thought being president would be easier than his old life



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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - He misses driving, feels as if he is in a cocoon, and is surprised how hard his new job is.

President Donald Trump on Thursday reflected on his first 100 days in office with a wistful look at his life before the White House.

"I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters in an interview. "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4361 on: July 16, 2017, 09:57:08 PM »

Not really sure what you are implying here.  Every administration have had a plethora of so called "experts" that "will" fix the middle east and nothing has happened yet.  So it's not like he could do any worse. 

In all seriousness though, the Middle East will never be fixed unless we, the USA, stop providing all help to Israel until they end their apartheid governance of the Palestinians.  I don't see any political will strong enough in this country for that to happen though; not even Obama had the grit to vote against Israel last fall.

Sorry, I was being cute. My comment was based on a statement that Trump made during a public talk, press conference or something, I'm not sure where it was. But John Oliver showed the short clip on his rant about Jared having too many jobs. Trump said something like, 'I'm sending Jared to the middle east. If Jared can't fix the middle east, then nobody can' (that's not an exact quote). If you're curious to see the clip, best bet is to watch Oliver's rant.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4362 on: July 16, 2017, 10:13:09 PM »

So, this is getting creepy when Sun Tzu's Art of War is being quoted relating to the whole #FAKENEWS open warfare from the White House...

‘Fake News Industrial Complex’: Dr. Seb Gorka Defines the Enemy ‘Opposition Party’ Media



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Dr. Sebastian Gorka, Deputy Assistant to President Donald J. Trump, has taken the next major step in the war against the legacy, establishment media: He has now defined the enemy.
President Trump and White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon—who along with Gorka is a former Breitbart News official—earlier this year identified the media class as the “opposition party.”

That happened in late January, just after the inauguration. Bannon infamously teased the media alongside White House chief of staff Reince Priebus as reporters lined an area of the White House at one point, saying there’s “the opposition party, all lined up.”

Trump then, in mid-February, further drew a line in the sand against the media, noting that their continued publication of fake news makes them an “enemy of the American people.”

CNN and others like the New York Times and MSNBC and so many more continue to publish demonstrably fake news without correction, apology, or consequences—unless they come under serious pressure as CNN was forced to have three of its editorial staff resign over the very fake news scandal engulfing the network. But since the media continues to refuse to act appropriately, now President Trump’s and the American people’s battle against fake news is hitting a new level.

Gorka, in a series of television appearances this weekend, has come forward with a terminology to define the enemy in this war: The “Fake News Industrial Complex.” Defining the enemy—knowing the enemy—is critical to winning in war.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle,” Sun Tzu wrote in the Art of War, per a translation Lionel Giles published by MIT.

Having a clear definition of the terminology and structure of the fake news world—the “Fake News Industrial Complex” does that—makes it easier for Trump to win the ever-looming war with the media. Sources close to the president tell Breitbart News that a “filthy, bloody war looms” with the fake news media—something the media will lose when confronted directly, head-on, for the first time it has ever been challenged.

I find him creepy...he's a smart guy and very well spoken...just like what you would expect Satan to sound like. I wonder if his tongue is split? And he has fans, lots of rabid fans...well, ok, primarily one fan, Trump!

Trump's favorite new TV defender: Sebastian Gorka



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In the more establishment-aligned parts of the White House, Sebastian Gorka is a figure of ridicule, with some staff believing he's an embarrassment when he represents the administration on TV.

But to Trump's nationalist base, and the one person who matters inside the White House, he's become a rock star in recent days. Gorka's stock has soared as President Trump has watched him on various cable channels fighting with the hosts and accusing them of being part of the "fake news industrial complex."

Before Trump left for Paris yesterday evening, he was asking West Wing staff, "Did you see Gorka? So great, I mean really, truly great." Trump loved, in particular, when Gorka told CNN morning host Alisyn Camerota that more people are interested in cartoons than CNN, and that the network's ratings are lower than "Nick at Nite."

Highlights from recent Gorka hits on cable news:

To MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle: "Would you like to talk about Mosul or continue talking about the nothing burger story? ... The Hillary Clinton campaign collects dirt on Bernie Sanders. Is that unusual?"

To CNN's Anderson Cooper: "I'm sad to see CNN fall to this ... I know you want salacious and sensational coverage for your ratings so your corporate sponsors and owners will have more money, but that's not media, that's not reportage. It's just fake news."

To CNN's Alisyn Camerota: "The amount of time you spend in desperation on a topic that has plummeted you to 13th place in viewership ranking across America — more people watch Nick at Nite cartoons than CNN today."

Gorka's favorite line: "Fake news industrial complex," which he said on Twitter was coined by Andy Surabian, a Bannon aide.

He's really fast on his feet and likes to slide his daggers in between your ribs with that cheshire cat grin on his face. And he apparently impresses Trump...well, at least at the moment. As we know, Trump's ratings can come and go and people's ratings can come and go like the tide.

But this guy is dangerous...which is I think why Trump & his Minions™ love Sebastian Gorka (for the moment)!
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4363 on: July 17, 2017, 12:02:48 AM »

This is pretty self explanatory...



6 months in, a record low for Trump, with troubles from Russia to health care (POLL)

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Americans give President Donald Trump the lowest six-month approval rating of any president in polls dating back 70 years, punctuated by questions about his competence on the world stage, his effectiveness, the GOP health care plan and Russia’s role in the 2016 election.

Just 36 percent of Americans polled in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll approve of Trump’s job performance, down 6 points from his 100-day mark, itself a low. The previous president closest to this level at or near six months was Gerald Ford, at 39 percent, in February 1975.

See PDF with full results here.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4364 on: July 17, 2017, 12:10:08 AM »

...he's a smart guy and very well spoken...just like what you would expect Satan to sound like...

Who? Obama?

And to extend your metaphor, since, in your opinion, Trump is neither, does it make him sound like...God?

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4365 on: July 17, 2017, 12:49:03 AM »

And to extend your metaphor, since, in your opinion, Trump is neither, does it make him sound like...God?

Naw, Satan's Tool/Fool



(you know полезные дураки or useful idiot)
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4366 on: July 17, 2017, 01:04:23 AM »

So, Trump and May might be breaking up...
(this is from the British press which can be vicious–does that make it #FAKENEWS?)


Donald Trump begs Theresa May to fix a ‘warm welcome’ for his state visit – and says he won’t set a date for it until he knows he’s going to get ‘a better reception’


The cover story image above is from May's visit to the White House, January, 2017...not related to the current story from The Sun below.

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US President warns he will not visit until he can guarantee a good reception and pleas with Theresa May to help influence public

BRAZEN Donald Trump urged the PM to “fix it” for him to get a warm welcome in Britain. And he warned he won’t set foot here until the public start liking him. The US President made his shameless plea in a private conversation with Theresa May to plan his state visit — now postponed until next year.

Two million people signed a petition calling for Mr Trump’s proposed trip to be axed.

A transcript of the chat, seen by senior diplomats, reveals his touchiness. Mr Trump says: “I haven’t had great coverage out there lately, Theresa.”
She replies awkwardly: “Well, you know what the British press are like.”
He replies: “I still want to come, but I’m in no rush.
“So, if you can fix it for me, it would make things a lot easier.
“When I know I’m going to get a better reception, I’ll come and not before.”
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4367 on: July 17, 2017, 01:30:39 AM »

“So, if you can fix it for me, it would make things a lot easier.
“When I know I’m going to get a better reception, I’ll come and not before.”


Poor snowflake Donald.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4368 on: July 17, 2017, 01:34:15 AM »

I find him creepy...

Is he still around? I thought he disappeared along with his Nazi medals?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4369 on: July 17, 2017, 01:37:14 AM »

Is he still around? I thought he disappeared along with his Nazi medals?

Nope...they don't let Conway out too much except on Fox but Gorka was the recent Trump White House spokesman to be unleashed on the MSM.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4370 on: July 17, 2017, 02:38:37 AM »

I'm sorry...I found this on my Facebook feed and couldn't pass it up.

Donald Trump’s Praying Hands White House Photo Backfires Beautifully

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You can always count on the internet to deliver. A recent photo surfaced of alleged president Donald Trump being pawed at by a pastor and enthusiastic supplicants seeking to wipe some Jesus on his awkwardly fitting suit. Wasting absolutely no time, the Viral Plague staff got to work doctoring up some…alternative scenarios.


The original












They even have a blank template if you want to do your own...



Sorry...late at nite, it really struck me as funny!
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4371 on: July 17, 2017, 06:52:23 AM »

What? Trump is religious? Since when.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4372 on: July 17, 2017, 07:23:16 AM »

What? Trump is religious? Since when.

Since he decided to become president. Just like Obama. At least he didn't have to convert first  ;)

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« Reply #4373 on: July 17, 2017, 08:23:59 AM »

Interesting sidebar about .
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4374 on: July 17, 2017, 10:03:19 AM »

Interesting video.  It completely ignores those three little words that appear on nearly everything we buy these days.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4375 on: July 17, 2017, 04:50:13 PM »

Lyin' Donny Trump said:

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Donald J. Trump ‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
The ABC/Washington Post Poll, even though almost 40% is not bad at this time, was just about the most inaccurate poll around election time!
7:10 AM - 16 Jul 2017

And from Politifact.com:

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Our ruling
Trump said his six-month approval poll numbers are "not bad" relative to other presidents at this point in his presidency.

Not bad isn’t a scientific term, but by any sober measure Trump is performing relatively worse compared to his contemporaries, as well as any president since World War II.

We rate his claim False.


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Says his job approval poll numbers are "not bad" relative to other presidents at this point in his presidency.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4376 on: July 18, 2017, 01:20:59 PM »

So, what else is new? Trump lies again...

Trump Says He Has Signed More Bills Than Any President, Ever. He Hasn’t.


President Trump signed two bills into law during a ceremony in the Diplomatic Reception Room
last month.CreditAl Drago/The New York Times


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WASHINGTON — To hear President Trump tell it, his first six months in the White House should be judged in part by the legislation he has signed into law.

At rallies, in speeches and on Twitter, Mr. Trump repeatedly boasts of the bills he has signed — 42 as of this week. He has said no president has “passed more legislation,” conceding once earlier this year that he trails Franklin D. Roosevelt, who he notes “had a major Depression to handle.”

On Monday, he went even further, claiming to have bested all of his predecessors in turning bills into law.

“We’ve signed more bills — and I’m talking about through the legislature — than any president, ever,” Mr. Trump said at a “Made in America” event at the White House. “For a while, Harry Truman had us. And now, I think, we have everybody.”

Turning to Vice President Mike Pence, he added an aside about news media fact-checkers: “I better say ‘think’; otherwise they will give you a Pinocchio. And I don’t like Pinocchios.”

In fact, as he approaches six months in office on Thursday, Mr. Trump is slightly behind the lawmaking pace for the past six presidents, who as a group signed an average of 43 bills during the same period. And an analysis of the bills Mr. Trump signed shows that about half were minor and inconsequential, passed by Congress with little debate. Among recent presidents, both the total number of bills he signed and the legislation’s substance make Mr. Trump about average.

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A Breakdown of Trump’s Bills
President Trump has signed 42 bills since taking office.
15 reversing Obama regulations
14 ceremonial and routine lawmaking
5 bureaucratic tweaks
4 space and science bills
4 veterans bills

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But almost half the other bills Mr. Trump has signed into law are ceremonial or routine. The president includes in his count laws like the one to rename the federal courthouse in Nashville after Fred Thompson, the actor and former senator who died in 2015. Even the Republican leadership in the Senate does not count those kinds of bills when they tally their legislative achievements.

By contrast, Mr. Trump’s tally includes three laws to appoint members to the Smithsonian Board of Regents, another to seek research into better weather reports, and one to require the Department of Homeland Security to manage its fleet of vehicles more efficiently.

Marc Short, the president’s top legislative adviser, acknowledged that no one would try to claim that renaming a building should be considered “landmark legislation.” But he defended the president’s repeated promotion of the bills he has signed into law.

“It’s a response to a lot of media coverage that has tried to downplay what he’s accomplished,” Mr. Short said. “There’s an overarching coverage about what’s not been accomplished. The president is trying to point out what we actually have done.”

So, how's that TrumpCare legislation going Donny?

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4377 on: July 18, 2017, 01:33:59 PM »

Such a busy, busy boy!

Trump’s ‘Made In America’ Week Is Already Backfiring Spectacularly


Donald Trump enjoyed playing in a fire truck outside the White House on Monday as he kicked off a week showcasing products that were made in America.
"Where's the fire? Where's the fire? Put it out fast!" the president said as he climbed into the cab of a Wisconsin-built fire truck and pretended to be a firefighter. 


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The president and his family have relied heavily on foreign manufacturing.

President Donald Trump is set to declare this week “Made In America” week to help promote products manufactured in the United States, according to The Hill.

But he’s already coming under fire for the move, given that Trump-branded products are often manufactured overseas.

Many of Trump’s clothing items have been made in Mexico and China. During the campaign last year, his use of steel and aluminum from China became a campaign issue.

And just last week, The Washington Post reported on the fashion line of first daughter and White House aide Ivanka Trump, finding that much of it is made by low-wage workers in countries such as Bangladesh, Indonesia and China.

White House spokeswoman Helen Aguirre Ferre was asked on Sunday if the president would use “Made in America” week to push his daughter to make those products in the United States.

"We’ll get back to you on that" she said, according to Politico.

Critics on social media aren’t waiting for the response. They blasted Trump and his family for not practicing what they preach.

Hey Donny, here's where the fire is...
1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20500
Some guy caught his pants on fire and his aids can't seem to put the fire out...
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« Reply #4378 on: July 18, 2017, 02:19:34 PM »

So here is my contribution to this subject:

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4379 on: July 18, 2017, 04:19:12 PM »

As hopeless & unpleasant as Trump is, if he's impeached or in some other way relinquishes the presidency, then the next in line is going to be worse. Pence is a scary-as-**** Dominionist a***hole, and equally as fascistic in outlook as Trump. If you get shot of him you get the inanely grinning Ryan, who's also an unpleasant right-wing a***hole. And frankly, thereafter it's a***holes all the way down. I'd stick with Trump.
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