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Slobodan Blagojevic

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6240 on: September 18, 2017, 07:23:17 pm »

Well,  she already owns an orange jump suit. :)

Just look at that huge audience surrounding her ;)

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6241 on: September 18, 2017, 08:21:21 pm »

Well, looks like Dems have a new delusion to entertain themselves with:

"Clinton opens door to questioning legitimacy of 2016 election"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-2016-election/index.html

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6242 on: September 18, 2017, 08:56:01 pm »

So, how about that wiretapping of Trump:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

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The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.

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The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6243 on: September 18, 2017, 11:30:38 pm »

And the screeching of the moderate GOP members too, right?

known traitors
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6244 on: September 18, 2017, 11:32:54 pm »

Repealing such an order only takes a signature.

Understanding the consequences of the repeal, or putting something better or a modification in place, requires knowledge and a long-term vision.

Cheers,
Bart

consequences are very good - no more backdoor amnesty for illegal aliens and decimating alt-left potential electoral base ... what is there not to like ?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6245 on: September 19, 2017, 12:13:33 am »

Enough of this negative talk of third world illegal migrants. Europe is doing just fine ever since they flew open their borders. So will we.


Paris Yesterday




Paris today.




Paris tomorrow.


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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6246 on: September 19, 2017, 12:21:03 am »

So, how about that wiretapping of Trump:

Incidental collection or maybe it's collateral damage?

Depends on what Donny may have said to Paul while Paul's phones were tapped, huh?

Seems Paul J. Manafort is looking down the barrel of an indictment and has been under surveillance granted by a FISA warrant since last year...but the news is that he was also under a FISA warrant in 2014 because of activities as a foreign agent and being involved with a lobby firm Black, Manafort & Stone (yeah, that Stone, Roger J. Stone).

Between Flynn and Manafort the odds are really good they'll be spending some time in prison...unless that have an interesting story to tell.

Think they have anything worthy to tell? Flynn claims he does...ya think he might? Ya think Manafort has anything interesting to say?


Fun people that Donny hang around with huh?

Manafort is in deep dodo...

With a Picked Lock and a Threatened Indictment, Mueller’s Inquiry Sets a Tone

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WASHINGTON — Paul J. Manafort was in bed early one morning in July when federal agents bearing a search warrant picked the lock on his front door and raided his Virginia home. They took binders stuffed with documents and copied his computer files, looking for evidence that Mr. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, set up secret offshore bank accounts. They even photographed the expensive suits in his closet.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, then followed the house search with a warning: His prosecutors told Mr. Manafort they planned to indict him, said two people close to the investigation.

I hope they both have their affairs in order...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6247 on: September 19, 2017, 12:29:29 am »

Enough of this negative talk of third world migrants. France is doing just fine ever since they flew open their borders. So will we.


Paris Yesterday

Oh, that's a nice shot of Bretagne, France!

30 Picturesque Villages Straight Out of Fairy Tales [PICS]

Oh, wait, did you think that shot was from Paris? Oh, sorry to pop you bubble...

Oh, and about that shot of the slums? The file name of tag image is Poverty-in-India.jpg from this site: Is India’s government redefining poverty to improve the country’s image?

Did you somehow mistake that for Paris too?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6248 on: September 19, 2017, 12:34:33 am »



How's this for Paris Yesterday?

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6249 on: September 19, 2017, 12:52:47 am »


How's this for Paris Yesterday?


Nice painting...oh, wait, did you think that was a photo instead of a romanticized illustration?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6250 on: September 19, 2017, 01:04:40 am »

So, how about that wiretapping of Trump:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

Manafort had an office in Trump Tower.  The article isn't clear whether his phone were tapped there as well as other places confirming Trump's complaint all along about phones being tapped at Trump Tower.  Yeah, others will say that it wasn't Trump's phone.  But, Manafort was his campaign manager and tapping his phone would be the same thing proving Trump was right all along. 

So we had Rice giving Obama transcripts and the FBI doing their own tapping.  It smells of politics. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6251 on: September 19, 2017, 01:35:07 am »

It smells of politics.

If they had a FISA warrant (the reports said they did) then it actually smells more like a criminal conspiracy...particularly since Manafort is now being threatened with an indictment.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6252 on: September 19, 2017, 05:58:18 am »



Wait, what? Trump's lawyers are discussing private information and strategies in public within earshot of a NYT reporter? You couldn't make this shit up. If you wrote this into a movie script, people would say no lawyer in his right minds would be talking about serious stuff in public–let alone within earshot of a reporter, right?


What is with people these days?  Is there no one that can be trusted to keep sensitive information secure?

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6253 on: September 19, 2017, 06:45:43 am »

If they had a FISA warrant (the reports said they did) then it actually smells more like a criminal conspiracy...particularly since Manafort is now being threatened with an indictment.
You're jumping to conclusions.  Why a conspiracy?  Manafort had previously been investigated and tapped a couple of years before Trump decided to run.  Frankly, he seems like a shady character to me.  I suspect some of his dealings were questionable if not illegal.  Ditto with Flynn, although maybe of an administrative type violation like not filing before representing a foreign nation. 

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6254 on: September 19, 2017, 10:58:13 am »

If they had a FISA warrant (the reports said they did) then it actually smells more like a criminal conspiracy...particularly since Manafort is now being threatened with an indictment.

A "FISA warrant," issued by a special court established by Congress as part of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, does not require the government to show probable cause of a crime, as it would to get authority to conduct another form of search or surveillance.  The government only needs to persuade one of the court's judges that there is reason to believe the target is acting as an agent of a foreign government.  In other words, it appears that Manafort, along with Carter Page and possibly other advisors to the Trump campaign, was believed by the FBI to be engaged in some form of espionage—presumably as part of the Russian government's effort to influence the outcome of the presidential election.

Traditional warrants, such as the one issued in July to search Manafort's home in Virginia, do indicate that investigators have reason to believe the target engaged in criminal activity, and the New York Times reported yesterday that "[t]he special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, then followed the house search with a warning: His prosecutors told Mr. Manafort they planned to indict him, said two people close to the investigation."

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6255 on: September 19, 2017, 05:51:24 pm »

Hum...

Exclusive: Trump using campaign, RNC funds to pay legal bills from Russia probe


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NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is using money donated to his reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee to pay for his lawyers in the probe of alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The U.S. Federal Election Commission allows the use of private campaign funds to pay legal bills arising from being a candidate or elected official.

While previous presidential campaigns have used these funds to pay for routine legal matters such as ballot access disputes and compliance requirements, Trump would be the first U.S. president in the modern campaign finance era to use such funds to cover the costs of responding to a criminal probe, said election law experts.

One person familiar with the matter said the first payments, the amount of which Reuters could not determine, has already been made and would be disclosed in public filings. The person did not explain how the costs would be allocated between the campaign and the RNC.

The Republican National Committee is expected to make its August spending public on Wednesday, and the Trump campaign is due for another disclosure on Oct. 15.

John Dowd, Trump’s lead lawyer, declined to say how the president’s legal bills were being paid, adding: “That’s none of your business.”

Hey John, how was that lunch the other day with Ty Cobb at BLT Steak? Funny, one of the Yep reviews (I'm not kidding here) said:

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Changed to one star will never eat their again .
No respect for privacy. Nice place to go if you want your private business overheard . I thought this was a good place for business meeting, I was so wrong !

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Hum, so I guess Trump supporters and the RNC paid for that lunch at BLT Steak, huh? John would prolly say: “That’s none of your business.”

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6256 on: September 19, 2017, 06:30:30 pm »

There are some jobs that I could not do for any amount of money...John Kelly has such a job.

Here was John Kelly's reaction during Trump's big UN speech

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President Donald Trump kicked off Tuesday by delivering an impassioned speech to delegates from the 193 member states of the United Nations.

Among other things, Trump lashed out at North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and denounced "the scourge of our planet," which he described as a "small group of rogue regimes that violate every principle on which the United Nations is based."

Trump said in the speech that if North Korea didn't back down from its nuclear aggression, the US would "have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea."

Trump also singled out Iran, calling the US's nuclear deal with the country, brokered by President Barack Obama, an "embarrassment."

At one point, Trump said, "Major portions of the world are in conflict, and some, in fact, are going to hell."

John Kelly, Trump's chief of staff who has a reputation as a strict disciplinarian, was also at the UN when the president delivered his remarks. This was his reaction:



But that wasn't the only shot (although it's the one most noted in the news and on Twitter)
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6257 on: September 19, 2017, 07:41:42 pm »

There are some jobs that I could not do for any amount of money...John Kelly has such a job. . . . Here was John Kelly's reaction during Trump's big UN speech



Eh?  What's the big deal?  Kelly was obviously just trying to concentrate on understanding the subtle nuances of the presentation by el señor Loco.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #6258 on: September 19, 2017, 10:25:05 pm »

If they had a FISA warrant (the reports said they did) then it actually smells more like a criminal conspiracy...particularly since Manafort is now being threatened with an indictment.
Trump was right that the phones were tapped at Trump Tower.  You and most others had been laughing at his assertion for over 6 months.  Regardless of the reasons for taps, Trump was right.

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« Reply #6259 on: September 19, 2017, 10:26:10 pm »

There are some jobs that I could not do for any amount of money...John Kelly has such a job.


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