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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4340 on: July 21, 2017, 07:57:33 am »

Russians have been buying real estate all over. Not only from Trump. And so have the Chinese.
Interestingly, when it comes to Russians, it's not only the oligarchs. In 2011, a trust linked to the eldest daughter of potash fertilizer magnate Dmitry Rybolovlev paid $88 million for a four-bedroom penthouse at 15 Central Park West – the most expensive New York City apartment purchase ever.
The same year, composer Igor Krutoy also broke records when he bought a $48 million condo at the Plaza Hotel – one of three units he owns in the building.
That begs the question - how does a composer make that kind of money?

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According to the Financial Times (£), well-to-do Russians – and Ukrainians too – "are trying to shift more cash into London property ... amid indications that eastern European oligarchs are using the capital’s housing market to conceal their assets from international sanctions".

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/may/09/rich-russians-buying-london-property-real-estate

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The failing Russian economy, coupled with a badly performing stock market and real estate market has led wealthy Russians to look for safe havens abroad, in order to retain the value of their substantial savings. So, the Russian interest in the overseas property market is very much intact, and indeed, there is a rush to buy new properties before any further devaluation of the Rouble.

Here are the top 10 countries where Russians buy overseas property. Bulgaria features on the top of the list.

1.    Bulgaria (14.5%)
2.    Germany (8%)
3.    Finland (7.9%)
4.    Spain (7.8%)
5.    USA (5.2%)
6.    France (4.8%)
7.    Czech Republic (4.6%)
8.    Italy (4.3%)
9.    Egypt (3.2%)
10.   Turkey (3%)

http://worldwidegroup.eu/russian-investors-are-still-buying-houses-in-bulgaria

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In Miami, while Latin Americans – especially Brazilians – have driven the recovery of the city’s once-battered real estate market, Russian millionaires made headlines with their taste for giant waterfront mansions.
“The Russians have elevated the Miami market quite a bit,” said Jill Eber, a local real estate broker whose agency caters to “high-end residential properties and the finest communities.”

https://www.voanews.com/a/russian-investors-seek-safety-in-us-real-estate/1901378.html
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4341 on: July 21, 2017, 08:32:14 am »


Interestingly, when it comes to Russians, it's not only the oligarchs.


but of course... by all means I am not, for example  ;D


That begs the question - how does a composer make that kind of money?


that simply shows your ignorance about the matters in the country you try to talk about ... Igor Krutoy is not just a composer - he is a also well known (in Russia) producer and entrepreneur ( think Sean Combs ) since late 1980s / early 1990s...
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4342 on: July 21, 2017, 08:36:10 am »

Thank you for answering my question.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4343 on: July 21, 2017, 09:31:36 am »

See the video of "the hand shake" HERE

It is funny, just like their first official handshake in the White House.  It looks like Macron is protecting his wife from being grabbed (harder to do with only one free hand, even for Trump). Also clear are the attempts of Trump to pull Macron out of balance, but Macron doesn't relent and readjusts his balance to do some more white knuckle crunching.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4344 on: July 21, 2017, 09:46:37 am »

Thank you for answering my question.

Igor Krutoy = Igor The Cool

That should have answered your question right there 😊

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4345 on: July 21, 2017, 12:19:47 pm »

White House spokesman Sean Spicer resigns: New York Times
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-spicer-idUSKBN1A6237

QUOTE: July 21, 2017 / 6:07 PM  "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House spokesman Sean Spicer resigned on Friday after U.S. President Donald Trump appointed Wall Street financier Anthony Scaramucci as his top communications official, the New York Times reported, citing a person with direct knowledge of the exchange.

Trump offered Scaramucci, a longtime supporter, the White House communications post. "



So far,  this is the whole article from Reuters before further editing, but other sources reportedly say that Spicer said it was a big mistake to appoint Scaramucci, so that's why he quits. Reuters usually does more fact-checking before relying on a single source, so more info will follow.

This is the single source for the moment:
Sean Spicer Resigns as White House Press Secretary
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html

According to Wikipedia: Anthony Scaramucci (born January 6, 1964) is an American entrepreneur, financier, political figure, and creepy guy.

Cheers,
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4346 on: July 21, 2017, 12:24:00 pm »

Had Trump refused to sell condos to Russians, he would be breaking the law, i.e., discriminating based on national origin 😉

But...many if not most are bought by cutouts or by anonymous shell companies to hide the buyer's identity. So refusing to sell to shell company would break no law and in fact the feds are cracking down on real estate developers that do sell to shell companies because it's a current favorite way of laundering money.
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« Reply #4348 on: July 21, 2017, 01:59:25 pm »

But...many if not most are bought by cutouts or by anonymous shell companies to hide the buyer's identity. So refusing to sell to shell company would break no law and in fact the feds are cracking down on real estate developers that do sell to shell companies because it's a current favorite way of laundering money.
Do you check before you sell your photo processing  book to see if they've been some sexual offender who wants to photoshop pictures for child pornography? You really should stop the holier than thou nonsense..  And hoe do you know if it's not some Chinese guy who's using a shell company to protect himself from communists who would steal his money if things went South on the mainland.

No matter what Trump does,  you guys cry "wolf".  That assault is going to come around and bite you on the a$$.

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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4349 on: July 21, 2017, 02:39:20 pm »

Best quote of the day.

"... you eat an elephant one bite at a time, and me and Sarah are doing it together."

God I hope SNL does something with that! 
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4350 on: July 21, 2017, 03:38:32 pm »

Typical Trump:

President Donald Trump plans to nominate his longtime campaign aide Sam Clovis to head science at the US Department of Agriculture, despite the fact that Clovis lacks a background in science and a congressional rule maintains that the role must be filled "from among distinguished scientists."
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« Reply #4351 on: July 21, 2017, 04:02:49 pm »

Typical Trump:

President Donald Trump plans to nominate his longtime campaign aide Sam Clovis to head science at the US Department of Agriculture, despite the fact that Clovis lacks a background in science and a congressional rule maintains that the role must be filled "from among distinguished scientists."
Trump doesn't like professors. He wants people who know how to execute.  This guy seems to fit the bill plus he appears loyal, always a good trait in politics.   Here's a short bio on him from the article:
"...Mr. (actually Dr.) Clovis holds a B.S. in political science from the U.S. Air Force Academy, an M.B.A. from Golden Gate University and a Doctorate in public administration from the University of Alabama.  He is also a graduate of both the Army and Air Force War Colleges.  After graduating from the Academy, Mr. Clovis spent 25 years serving in the Air Force.  He retired as the Inspector General of the North American Aerospace Defense Command  and the United States Space Command and was a command pilot..."

The article also mention that the Weed Science Society of America appears satisfied with him.  So if the Weed Science Society of America is satisfied, who are we to object?  Tomorrow, no one's going to care in any case as Trump Jr. and Scaramucci are more interesting.

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« Reply #4352 on: July 21, 2017, 04:41:08 pm »

Trump doesn't like professors. He wants people who know how to execute.  This guy seems to fit the bill plus he appears loyal, always a good trait in politics.   Here's a short bio on him from the article:
"...Mr. (actually Dr.) Clovis holds a B.S. in political science from the U.S. Air Force Academy, an M.B.A. from Golden Gate University and a Doctorate in public administration from the University of Alabama.  He is also a graduate of both the Army and Air Force War Colleges.  After graduating from the Academy, Mr. Clovis spent 25 years serving in the Air Force.  He retired as the Inspector General of the North American Aerospace Defense Command  and the United States Space Command and was a command pilot..."

The article also mention that the Weed Science Society of America appears satisfied with him.  So if the Weed Science Society of America is satisfied, who are we to object?  Tomorrow, no one's going to care in any case as Trump Jr. and Scaramucci are more interesting.

A non-scientist in charge of scientists can't possibly know what people who report to him are doing. It's something like a guy who knows nothing about government being President.

I think Trump doesn't like professors because they make him feel ignorant.
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4353 on: July 21, 2017, 04:52:32 pm »

Do you check before you sell your photo processing  book to see if they've been some sexual offender who wants to photoshop pictures for child pornography? You really should stop the holier than thou nonsense..

Ya know, you might want to put at least a LITTLE effort in coming up with scenarios where your attempts at drawing comparisons would make at least a little sense...this sort of thing makes your point incredibly easy to ignore–and I write this not to disparage you but to encourage you to do better.

And I'm very darn sure I'm holier than Trump...I've actually got a track record of doing nice things for other people and I've never been sued for non-payment. I've been married to the same wonderful woman for 43 (44 end of Aug) and I've never grabbed another woman by the pussy. I don't claim to be perfect, but I'm pretty darn sure I'm not a piece of crap like Donny boy, ya know?
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Re: Trump II
« Reply #4354 on: July 21, 2017, 05:02:16 pm »

"... you eat an elephant one bite at a time, and me and Sarah are doing it together."

Ironic choice of animal?



How do you eat the GOP?
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« Reply #4355 on: July 21, 2017, 05:32:46 pm »

Ironic choice of animal?



How do you eat the GOP?

Ahh, did not look at it that way.  Certainly ironic. 

To be honest, I had that interview on as background noise while working on pictures.  That really stuck out; I can't remember anything else that was said. 

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« Reply #4356 on: July 21, 2017, 08:01:56 pm »

A non-scientist in charge of scientists can't possibly know what people who report to him are doing. It's something like a guy who knows nothing about government being President.

I think Trump doesn't like professors because they make him feel ignorant.
Did you read his resume?  Dr. Clovis holds a B.S. in political science from the U.S. Air Force Academy, an M.B.A. from Golden Gate University and a Doctorate in public administration  from the University of Alabama.  He is also a graduate of both the Army and Air Force War Colleges.  After graduating from the Academy, Mr. Clovis spent 25 years serving in the Air Force.  He retired as the Inspector General of the North American Aerospace Defense Command  and the United States Space Command and was a command pilot..."

The president wants him to run it and get things done and not to personally invent the next grain product.  This is why past administrations and government in general failed.  They confused book learning with management ability to get the job done.  The president built buildings and golf course while never laying one brick or running a back hoe. 

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« Reply #4357 on: July 21, 2017, 08:13:09 pm »

Ya know, you might want to put at least a LITTLE effort in coming up with scenarios where your attempts at drawing comparisons would make at least a little sense...this sort of thing makes your point incredibly easy to ignore–and I write this not to disparage you but to encourage you to do better.

And I'm very darn sure I'm holier than Trump...I've actually got a track record of doing nice things for other people and I've never been sued for non-payment. I've been married to the same wonderful woman for 43 (44 end of Aug) and I've never grabbed another woman by the pussy. I don't claim to be perfect, but I'm pretty darn sure I'm not a piece of crap like Donny boy, ya know?
Yeah Jeff it was a long stretch, best I could come up with.  And I'm sure you are a nice person.  44 years.  Wow. 

The point I was making is you can't expect people selling condos to look into the history of the buyers.  Plus, the reason some people use corporations to buy is to hide their identity from hostile governments.  Of course some of it is just people hiding for illegitimate reasons.  But how does the seller know?  A person negotiates the purchase and after they settle on the price, forms have to be filled out.  So he puts down the name of a corporation and tells the seller that's who he's buying it for.  So what does the seller tell him, "Sorry I can't accept your $8 million because the corporation may be crooked?"  Maybe he shouldn't sell to any Russian or person who has an accent.  I mean aren't all of them crooked?  He should only sell to people like the Clintons who made money the old-fashioned way by selling political access.

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« Reply #4358 on: July 21, 2017, 09:32:10 pm »

Did you read his resume?  Dr. Clovis holds a B.S. in political science from the U.S. Air Force Academy, an M.B.A. from Golden Gate University and a Doctorate in public administration  from the University of Alabama.  He is also a graduate of both the Army and Air Force War Colleges.  After graduating from the Academy, Mr. Clovis spent 25 years serving in the Air Force.  He retired as the Inspector General of the North American Aerospace Defense Command  and the United States Space Command and was a command pilot..."

The president wants him to run it and get things done and not to personally invent the next grain product.  This is why past administrations and government in general failed.  They confused book learning with management ability to get the job done.  The president built buildings and golf course while never laying one brick or running a back hoe.

I did read the resume and there is nothing in it to qualify him for that position. It's like putting a Civil Engineering PhD with an MS in physics and a BS in mathematics in charge of a neurosurgical hospital. The guy might be smart, but in areas that are completely irrelevant to what he should be doing.
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« Reply #4359 on: July 21, 2017, 09:39:49 pm »

I did read the resume and there is nothing in it to qualify him for that position....

Let's not get carried away: the full title of the position is: the Agriculture Department’s undersecretary for research, education and economics.

So, an MBA, a professor of economics, and a PhD in Public Administration is not qualified to lead a public administration department where 2/3 of its title are "education and economics"?

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